Jenny Beth Martin read the next pages of the Democratic Socialists of America's program to six people who grew up under governments that promised the same things: public ownership of the largest corporations and essential industries, publicly owned housing, and a new constitution that abolishes the Senate, the Electoral College, the police, and prisons. Part three asked what a day without capitalism looks like. This part asks what it takes to deliver one. The answers come from a Romanian engineer whose family of seven lived in 500 square feet, a Soviet dissident who explains why educated people keep believing in a plan that cannot work, and a child of Romania whose mother's family lost centuries of land overnight. This is part four of the Surviving Communism panel.
Guests: Sasha Gong, former China director at Voice of America, former political prisoner in China, and Harvard PhD; Dr. Yuri Yarim-Agaev, Soviet physicist and Moscow Helsinki Group dissident, exiled in 1980; Agnes Gibboney, founder of Angel Families of America, whose family fled Hungary after the Soviet invasion of 1956; Ovidiu Frusina, a mechanical engineer who grew up in Nicolae Ceausescu's Romania; Manuela Callini, who grew up under Romanian communism; and Captain Onofre Gutierrez, born in Managua, Nicaragua.
Today's topics:
• Jenny Beth Martin reads the Democratic Socialists of America's program to six people who lived under it: public ownership of the largest corporations, publicly owned housing, and a new constitution
• Captain Onofre Gutierrez: "you will own the factories" is the biggest lie communism tells. How much of Tesla would be yours, and who runs it the day after it is taken?
• Ovidiu Frusina on no debt and no mortgage, Romanian style: nothing to borrow, nothing to own, the state as landlord, seven people in 500 square feet, and the lights cut at nine
• Dr. Yuri Yarim-Agaev: that was the rosy version. Soviet families shared one apartment, one toilet, and one kitchen with two or three other families
• Manuela Callini: two hours of electricity a day, and the state deciding by license plate which days you could drive
• Callini's mother: a Romanian family with land going back centuries lost everything overnight, the children shared one pair of rubber boots to walk to school, and the farm went to a village drunk
• Agnes Gibboney's family by Lake Balaton: the party took one pig to feed itself, then the land, then everything
• Jenny Beth Martin: if they took Elon Musk's companies, they would be ruined within days. The COVID lockdowns were the preview
• Sasha Gong on China's cashless state: a friend reposted her words and his bank account was frozen for two weeks
• Frusina's case studies: his grandfather's orchard collectivized and shut within six years, and the confiscated steel plant that ran down until the Swiss bought Romanian tractors to melt for the metal
• The socialist plan for a new constitution: abolish the Electoral College, the Senate, the police, prisons, and ICE. Yarim-Agaev: Stalin already wrote that constitution, and North Korea calls itself a democratic republic
• Gutierrez: the Sandinistas took 20 years to topple Somoza. Give this movement 30, and ask who moves on Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California once there is no border and no ICE
• Gibboney's 14-year-old grandson said Mamdani has some good ideas. Her answer: nothing is free. Jenny Beth Martin to parents: log in to your kids' social media and talk to them
• Next in the series: what America meant to each survivor, what President Reagan did as seen from inside communism, and what happens to the world if America stops being America
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