Guest: John McLaughlin — the pollster behind Tea Party Patriots Action's new national survey of 1,000 likely voters, and a veteran pollster for President Trump's campaigns who has also polled for state and federal candidates across the country, including in Georgia and Alaska.
Key topics:
- 82% of Americans, including 72% of Democrats, say only citizens should vote in American elections
- Voter ID at 78% support, with 95% of Americans already holding a valid photo ID
- 56% tell the Senate to keep working and pass the SAVE America Act this year
- Noncitizen registration admissions in New Jersey and Alaska, and the 743-vote margin
- 72% say the Strait of Hormuz cannot be blocked; 61% say finish the job on Iran
- The free market versus big government socialist ballot test: 49 to 36
Timestamps:
00:00 — Cold open: the new poll on the SAVE America Act
00:35 — Inside the poll: 1,000 likely voters and Trump at 49%
02:07 — Strait of Hormuz: 72% say Iran cannot block it
05:14 — 47 years of Iran and why Americans want it resolved
07:41 — The case President Trump must make to the public
13:26 — Going straight to the people: lessons from the Trump campaigns
16:00 — The ceasefire numbers split by media diet
18:47 — Free market vs big government socialist: 49 to 36
22:15 — 82% of Americans back citizens-only voting
24:31 — Noncitizens on the rolls: New Jersey, New York, Alaska
30:35 — 3,000 names and a 743-vote margin
31:34 — Voter ID: 78% support and 95% already have one
37:42 — The Senate's path: NDAA, reconciliation, and the filibuster
41:37 — 98 days out: early voting and the midterm convention
Links: teapartypatriots.org | jennybethshow.com | Capitol switchboard: 202-224-3121
[00:00:00] Fresh data confirms that despite the Democrat lies in the media's spin, the overwhelming majority of Americans support the Save America Act. Robert McNeely is a pollster who did our latest polling with Tea Party Patriots Action, and he's on to talk about it. I'm Jenny Beth Martin, and this is The Jenny Beth Show.
[00:00:31] Welcome to The Jenny Beth Show. John McLaughlin, thank you so much for joining me again today. It's a pleasure to be here. All right, so we've got new poll results out, and you tell me, you're the expert pollster. What are the things that stood out to you the most from the polling we just did? Robert McNeely Well, it stood out to them. First of all, the difference is when we do polls, we do polls of likely voters, people who are not only registered voters, but they tell us that they're likely to vote this November.
[00:00:58] Robert McNeely So it's a lot more serious than what you're seeing in a lot of these media polls where they have adults or registered voters or people that really don't intend to vote, whatever reasons. Robert McNeely And that's the way that they, the under-poll President Trump's support level. So in this poll, we have President Trump with a 49% job approval, 47 disapproved.
[00:01:21] So his base is still rock solid. It's over 90% with the Republicans and conservatives, people that have voted for him before, etc. John McLaughlin So in that regard, it has more significance. But the most important thing is what you're finding, I mean, the economic issues are still, it's what the voters tell us they care about for November.
[00:01:42] But when you look at the fact that when we asked them, you had questions in here, and again, I want to capture the wording of it because it was important. John McLaughlin When you ask them, when you tell them the Strait of the Hormuz, which they're all familiar with now as Americans, we're understanding that geography lesson.
[00:02:06] Critical shipping lanes, 20% of the world's oil plus a fifth of global natural gas fertilizers for our food, raw materials. They go through it every day. When you simply ask them, do you agree or disagree? Iran should not be allowed to block, attack, mine, or extort ships in the Strait of Hormuz. 72% of all Americans agree. 53% strongly agree and 18% disagree.
[00:02:30] So, and if Republicans 88 to 9, if they approve of the job Trump's doing, it's 85 to 10. But even if they disapprove of Trump, 61 to 26, they support that. And if they're undecided for Congress, they agree with that statement 53 to 15. If they voted for Trump in 24, 86 to 9, they agree with it. And Harris voters agree 61 to 26.
[00:02:53] So Americans don't like being blackmailed by a terrorist country that's going to force the price of oil to go up for the rest of the world. Or that, you know, ripples into the United States. Plus, it's a lot of other trade, but it has implications that Americans, we don't like to go to war. But on the other hand, we've been doing this for centuries now. Somebody threatens our country, threatens world peace. You know, we step in and we do what has to be done.
[00:03:23] The next question that you had there, Iran has consistently threatened U.S. safety, pursuing a nuclear program with the stated purpose of destroying Israel and causing mass destruction to the United States. If we don't finish the job now, the United States may have to take further military action months or years from now. When we asked, do you agree or disagree?
[00:03:45] The United States must finish the job once and for all to protect the United States and our allies, which means ensuring that Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon and can no longer threaten American lives. Because 61% of all voters agree with that. 28% disagreed. Republicans agree 86-10. If they're undecided for Congress, they agree 50-21. If they voted for Trump in 24, they agree 84-10.
[00:04:12] But so do 40% of Harris voters and so do 41% of Democrats. Democrats. So there is national unity that we didn't want to go into this war. We didn't want to have to do what we have to do. But it's the only way to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons. Like last month, 76% approved of that memorandum of understanding where they said, you know, we've got to stop Iran from having nuclear weapons.
[00:04:39] 75% said we have to stop Iran from funding terrorism against Israel and our other allies and against the United States. So Americans right now are better than two to one. They want to finish the job. We don't want to have this keep to go on and linger on and go on for, you know, could go on for months, years or generations. We want to get this over with. Well, and when it comes to Iran, we've already been at this for generations.
[00:05:07] We've been dealing with Iran for 47 years. It's almost 50 years. It's almost half a century. I think that Americans are tired of that, especially older Americans who remember more about the hostages and about the things that have happened in our lifetimes with Iran. If you're younger, you grew up, you were born after the hostages happened.
[00:05:34] And so it just sort of seems like a constant background in your life. But we remember before and after the hostage crisis. And it has to be dealt with. And one of the things we're going to get into the Save America Act and the things that we learned about the Save America Act in a couple of minutes.
[00:05:54] One of the things that really stood out to me, John, about these two poll questions is, one, I think so much of the polling about Iran right now is negatively questioned. It's questioned in a way that even you and I probably would agree with the negative that they are asking because it is such a negative question. It's hard not to agree with it.
[00:06:18] But I don't think that they are asking the kind of questions that we need to have more accurate information. If you just want to throw stones and say, oh, yeah, it's bad. We don't like war. Well, yeah. Who likes war? Who wants to say, yeah, I like war? That nobody, no normal person, no normal person says that.
[00:06:42] What these questions are showing us is that if you make your case to the American people and you explain what is at stake and how our current livelihood is at stake and the risk of Iran having a nuclear weapon, what that would mean? Americans, they agree, maybe grudgingly so, but they agree that we've got to deal with this situation.
[00:07:08] And I think it means that the president does have an opportunity, if he chooses to exercise it, to go make his case again to the American people, not necessarily with another primetime address, but he could do a video like he did at the beginning of this conflict. Or he could just make the case in a detailed truth social post.
[00:07:32] But there's the opportunity for him to make the case in a way that I think Americans would agree that it does need to be resolved. Yes. And you've hit the nail on the head in terms of he needs to make the case because you have to have public opinion on your side, something this serious. And what's different about your questions, and I agree with you, the media, a lot of the questions they phrase are basically biased against the president because they know it's a midterm election.
[00:08:02] And everything is polarized politically. The president's job approval, 49-47. Well, that's pretty polarized. The same poll, the generic ballot for Congress is 44 Republican, 46 Democrat. That's polarized. So the media is trying to tilt things against the president because we've seen this bias before. I mean, we saw it every time he was run for president. And here you've got something really serious where the American public needs to be united.
[00:08:32] We have men and women who are in the harm's way, in the military. There's people been on ships for months, if not a year, without touching land. And they're still being kept there because we just don't know what the Iranians are going to do. And the president, to his credit, keeps trying to speak with them. But they're terrorists. And your point about Americans, we don't like to go to war.
[00:08:57] And the media likes to ask questions about, you know, do you support military action, impose military action? They never ask about, do you think Iran should have a nuclear weapon? Do you think we should use our military to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon? Do you think, when you ask Americans, do you think if Iran had a nuclear weapon, they would use it against the United States? And we normally get over 60% of all Americans saying yes. So when do you want to wait to stop them?
[00:09:27] And when last year they were 11, you know, a few weeks off from getting 11 nuclear weapons. So President Trump has been very consistent about this from when he first ran for president, while he was in his first term, in between his two terms, and now as president, that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. They're a terrorist state. They have no qualms in using nuclear weapons. They have already lobbed intercontinental ballistic missiles at our allies and at our American military bases.
[00:09:56] They've killed Americans over this last weekend. So Iran has been killing Americans, as you pointed out, for decades. And those of us, I had to smile when you said, those of us who remember, yes, we remember when they took the hostages. And so I know Kevin Hermoning, who was a 20-year-old Marine, was kept in captivity for 444 days. He's in Wisconsin. He's running for Congress. He's a great person.
[00:10:22] But what he endured during those 444 days, we Americans should not forget. And there's thousands of Americans, whether it was in Afghanistan or whether it was in Lebanon or whether it was in Iraq, have been killed by these Iranians during the course of the wars, where they basically gave our enemies IEDs, missiles, whatever they could to kill Americans.
[00:10:52] And they've got a fatwa. They tried to kill President Trump. They got a fatwa on President Trump still because when General Soleimani with the Iranian Shiites decided they were going to take our Baghdad embassy during President Trump's first term, he sent in 3,000 troops to stop them and had Soleimani killed. And we're dealing with the same terrorist mentality.
[00:11:15] And, you know, if he has to—I mean, God bless our men and women in the military, like I said, because they're the only ones stopping Iran from doing what they would intend to do with their missiles and if they had nuclear weapons. That is exactly right. And, John, one other thing I was thinking of is we're having this conversation right now. Nature abhors a vacuum. So if you leave a space unoccupied, it is going to be filled.
[00:11:42] It is just a law of nature. That is what is going to happen. So if we are not making our case about why we are engaged in Iran, why this is necessary, why it was worth the risk to go and engage there, President Trump did not have to do this. The economy was set to skyrocket. And he could have just let that go and never even touched Iran.
[00:12:09] But he chose to use his political capital to end this thing once and for all. It's been going on almost his entire life, at least his entire adult life. And he is trying to just say, we're done. We're not going to have this anymore. I'm leaving this country in a way that they don't have to worry about Iran. That seems to me to be his goal.
[00:12:33] And if he would go and keep making that case to the American people and make sure he's filling the void so that the media and the left and the Democrat socialists and the communists are not filling that void, I think that he would be better off and the country as a whole would be better off. And as we head into the elections, we would be better off as well. Sometimes you don't like to talk about some things when you're going into an election. Pollsters and campaign consultants will say, oh, no, don't go there.
[00:13:02] You don't want to talk about it. But you and I were seeing that if you talk about it the right way, you can win people over. And maybe you don't win them over, but maybe you at least neutralize the negative so it's no longer a negative. That's what I think. But I'm that's me talking. You're the pollster. You've been doing campaigns longer than I have. Do you agree with what I'm saying or is that bad advice?
[00:13:25] No, I agree because the Tea Party Patriots, which I mean, those questions you you phrase, you're the only ones to ask questions like that. And it's a it's a thousand likely voters across the country. And they they agree with the opinions that we got to finish the job and we got to keep the straight or her moves open. But last month, what's really important is what you hit on is the way we won the Trump campaigns.
[00:13:49] And and whether it was his first campaign when all the media was saying there was a Hillary lock and we couldn't win. We just went straight to the people. President Trump went straight to the people with social media. He was out there on Facebook. He was out there on talk radio. He was doing what he had to do right up until the end so that he could win that campaign when he ran after after the 2020 race. When he mounted his comeback.
[00:14:15] What we what we did was we decided because remember what cost us 20 the 2020 race was that they censored President Trump on Twitter and Facebook. And they kept the Hunter Biden laptop story from getting to enough voters that it would have changed votes. And because of that, we did some post election polling for the media research center. And 36 percent of Biden voters had no idea about the Hunter laptop story. And if they did enough would have changed their opinion.
[00:14:44] So President Trump would have won. So that kind of censorship, which is what I'm just think about. That the president went to speak about the Save America Act on TV and election integrity and ABC and NBC and CNN censored it. They didn't carry the president of the United States. So what he did was he has to go back through, you know, April 1st when he spoke to the country. Thirty, 32 percent of people in our polls watched. They support him two to one.
[00:15:15] Another four in 10 media reports. They tilted towards the president. He has to go back out directly to the people like he did in the campaign. In the campaign, we went out to the people. He yelled rallies. He had true social media, Twitter, Facebook, et cetera. He was getting through the old legacy media by using digital media, by going out to the grassroots.
[00:15:41] You know, you were involved with an organization that reached tens of millions of voters in the United States. And one fact we had in the last survey from June, after they had the Memorandum of Understanding, before we asked any other questions about the Iran war, et cetera, when we asked them from what they read or heard, do they approve or disapprove of the ceasefire that President Trump made with Iran? This is back in June. Did they approve of a ceasefire?
[00:16:10] 51 to 34, all voters did. If they got their news from right of center news media, like Fox News, Newsmax, et cetera, 72 to 17, they approved. If they got their news from left of center news media, like MSNBC and CNN, they disapproved the ceasefire, 54 to 35. The left disapproved the ceasefire. Can you imagine how crazy that sounds? Because they never mention what it's about.
[00:16:39] They never mention it's about nuclear weapons. They never mention it's about terrorism. They just talk about Donald Trump has no game plan. He has no way out. He's just, you know, they just care so much about having the Congress and the Senate go left that in the midterm elections, that they'll say or do anything and they no longer have any credibility as journalists.
[00:17:06] No, they really don't have that credibility at all. That is a huge problem. It's just crazy that if they got their media from left to center news, 54 to 35 percent disapproved of a ceasefire. They don't approve of going into Iran and they don't approve of the ceasefire. I mean, you can't even win in that case. What do they want? They don't want the status quo and they don't want the status quo to end. It doesn't it doesn't.
[00:17:35] I wonder if they realize it doesn't even make logical sense. No, it only makes sense to them because they're so it's it's a cliche, but the Trump derangement syndrome. I mean, they are so anti-Trump, which is really Donald Trump's just the personification of what they're really anti. They're really anti the grassroots men and women of America. They the men and women of America vote for Donald Trump from the heartland, whether it's Sunbelt or the Rust Belt,
[00:18:04] whether whether they said we're tired of the elites exploiting us where we keep paying more and more taxes. We get less and less from the government. And, you know, most of us have rather not have from the government, rather just be able to have our freedom. And they they want to tell us what to do. They want to tell us, you know, what health care we can get, how much taxes we're going to pay. And it's always a lot more.
[00:18:29] Or they want to have open borders so that we can pay our taxes to fund illegal immigrants. I mean, that those elites are there. Just they're just driven to try to win these midterm elections. By the way, that's why in this latest survey, one of the best questions we had was, you know, after the generic ballot for Congress where we had the Republicans trailing 4446,
[00:18:52] which is five points less than Trump's approval rating, which is a problem because it means some Trump voters aren't coming out or not voting Republican, which we should get into with the issues. But when we asked them, all things being equal, are you more likely to vote for a free market capitalist Republican or big government socialist Democrat?
[00:19:13] That generic ballot changes where it goes to 49% for the free market capitalist Republican versus 36% for a big government socialist Democrat. So that gap is really what the election should be about because the Democrats in their primaries, you're getting people that are not just, you know, liberal Democrats. There are socialist Democrats. Some of them have affiliations with the Communist Party.
[00:19:41] Some of them affiliate with terrorists and root against the United States. And the Democrat Socialists of America, when you look at their platform, they want to change the Constitution to the point of eliminating the Senate. They want to pack the Supreme Court against this. I mean, you really, and what they really don't like is the Bill of Rights, which is about, you know, free speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association. They really want to change those things.
[00:20:09] So we've got to, that's what's at stake in this election. Yeah, that is exactly right. And what you just said about them not liking the Bill of Rights, I think that's really an important distinction. We've been doing training on our founding principles. We are running the training every single Friday during my show, and we will have an episode on the Bill of Rights.
[00:20:31] And it's just, we've got to remind people what is in the Bill of Rights and why it's so important to make sure that we are doing all we can to protect those rights, especially in light of the fact that these, the Democrat Socialists and the Communists really want to just run roughshod over all of them and quash them completely if they can. Absolutely. They would abolish religion. They would ban it. They tried it during COVID.
[00:21:00] They, free speech, they want to regulate that. It's just, you know, this election, if we don't win, we will have serious problems. So we really got to, we got to make sure our Republicans are up for the challenge. But you're right. Going back to your original premise, the president needs to frame what he's doing in Iran directly to the American people. And he needs to do it often and frequently. And it's not just a matter of sending out something on true social.
[00:21:30] The campaign, we did over 100 videos when he was running in 23 and 24 directly to the voters. No one could say he, they didn't know his position on any issue that was out there. People like Vince, Vince Haley, who's down in the White House, Ross Worthington, Storen Sprucci's room. They would do, they would work with him on those videos. And a lot of millions, tens of millions of voters watched those videos and knew where he stood. Yeah.
[00:21:58] In those videos, it was something really quite phenomenal to, to see because he laid out where he stood on every single issue. There wasn't a question about it. If you weren't sure where he stood, he had a video to explain exactly where he stood on that position. Yep. Okay. Now, as we dig deeper into the polling, we find that despite all of the attacks from the left over the last two and a half years,
[00:22:24] saying that we don't need to worry about only citizen voting, that it's already illegal if you're a non-citizen to vote, and just doing everything they can to bash the Save America Act, that still over 80% of Americans think that only American citizens should be voting in the American elections. Like, our numbers haven't moved. They maybe have wiggled a little, but they've stayed within the margin of error every time that we've polled on this.
[00:22:53] Yes. And by the way, it's a constant. It's just, you know what it is? It's fundamentally a moral issue where Americans are very honest people, and they expect that from their government. And in your survey, when we asked only United States citizens to be allowed to vote in elections for U.S. President, Senate, and House, 82% to 12, they agree. 67% strongly agree. And it's bipartisan.
[00:23:23] Republicans 91-6. Democrats 72-19. Independents 84-10. Hispanic Americans 74-17 agree. African Americans 74-20. Whites 86-9. It's right across all racial demographics, gender, ages. I mean, ideology, too. It just makes sense that they have to be, you know, a U.S. citizen to be allowed to vote here. And then when we asked them, when we tell them about the Save America Act,
[00:23:53] and which of the following statements you're more closely aligned with, the United States Senate should continue to work to pass the bill before this year's elections, but the United States should give up on passing the bill this year. Now, there's been a lot of negative press, but still 56% of all Americans are saying they should continue it. And related to that is, I think the most fundamental principle in there is agree-disagree. Voters should be required to show a photo ID when casting a ballot.
[00:24:21] 78-17 they agree. 56 strongly agree. And again, it's bipartisan versus ideological demographic lines. And now on the heels of what you see in New Jersey, where thousands of illegal immigrants were registered to vote, and hundreds of them did. And the governor, she couldn't explain it. It was a mistake. They blamed it on the software company.
[00:24:50] When that wasn't passing muster, she then turned around and blamed it on President Trump. So, but who knows? Other states, like think of it, like in my home state of New York State, they have a green light law. You also have motor voter. Green light law means any illegal immigrant wants to get a driver's license, get a driver's license. When you have any contact motor voter, any contact with state government,
[00:25:16] they automatically put you on the voter rolls unless you decline. So I can hardly wait to whatever they did in New Jersey. I want to see what they do in New York because I would guess there's a bunch of green light law driver's licenses or probably other forms. Could be Medicaid, could be housing or welfare assistance. Um, they're on the voter rolls unless somebody knocks them off and they don't share that with
[00:25:45] county clerks or town clerks. So, uh, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a sense of, it's a corruption that exists where, uh, elected officials are enabling this corruption and then they should be, they should be held accountable and paid a price. You're exactly right. And John, one of the things that I researched, um, last week is because I was doing research
[00:26:11] countering what Senator Murkowski had said in her op-ed to the Wall Street Journal. In the state of Alaska, on their division of election website, they admit that they are registering non-citizens to vote through their automatic voter registration. Now they're doing automatic voter registration through what is called the permanent fund dividend, not their driver's license. The permanent, the permanent fund dividend for those who don't know it is related to their oil pipeline.
[00:26:41] If you live in Alaska for more than half the year, you get paid to live there. It's not a lot, but you do get paid from their pipeline and they are automatically registering everyone who fills that out every single year. But the first time that you fill it out, you tell whether you are a citizen or a permanent legal resident and you have to provide documentation in order to get this. If you're a citizen, you have to share your passport or your, or your birth certificate.
[00:27:08] So even in Alaska, they're still having to prove it. So it's crazy to me that she thinks this is going to be a problem for voter registration. But then after I researched all that, I saw like last Friday afternoon that in, in Alaska, they also now have admitted in a legislative hearing, a state legislative hearing that they have 3000 over 3000 people who they think are non-citizens who are on their voter rolls
[00:27:37] in Alaska. Alaska is much smaller than New Jersey. And they think the number is half the number that New Jersey publicly admitted to. We have a major problem right now with these automatic voter registrations. It's creating upheaval. And because of the way the National Voter Registration Act is written and that stupid form that has a checkbox to affirm citizenship rather than proof of citizenship, we were in this bind where
[00:28:06] states cannot check proof of citizenship before they register people. They can clean it up afterwards. And that in between time, people are registering. I mean, they are voting when they shouldn't be voting when they're non-citizens. It's just wrong. Sorry. It just infuriates me. No, it's a moral issue. And we've got corrupt politicians who enable this type of corruption and fraud where, in effect,
[00:28:32] they're taking away our civil rights because our civil right is that we as a citizen can vote and no one should be allowed to cancel that out. And Alaska, you know, it's such a geographically huge state. And having worked up there for elected officials and actually polled up there, it's a huge state, but it's not that many people, as you said. And 3,000 is a lot. That could decide an election if they're allowed to vote.
[00:29:02] And a state like Alaska knows, ironically, when you talk about Senator Murkowski in 2004, when I worked for George Allen on the Senate Committee, that's his pollster. We got her elected precisely on the pipeline that her opponents had opposed the pipeline. And that dividend fund where Alaskans earn money from whatever the oil revenues are, that's a sacred thing. They shouldn't be giving that to people that, because the Alaskans need that money.
[00:29:30] It gets really cold up there in the winter, which is most of the year. So they shouldn't be allowing non-citizens to benefit from that. But that's the kind of corruption that's going on. Wherever the Democrats enable this state, you don't have to be a citizen. And basically what they're doing is they're bribing you to come here because they'll give you welfare, they'll give you housing, they'll give you health care.
[00:29:58] Americans can't afford their own insurance premiums, and they're giving health care to illegal immigrants. And then they run their Alaska dividend. They want to give it to people. So they want to pay here people to move here so they can register them to vote illegally and then have them vote. Or they ballot harvest or cast ballots for them, and they don't even know. So it's a crime, and it is morally wrong. It's a crime. It's morally wrong.
[00:30:28] And it's creating doubt in the election system, which undermines the very foundations of our government. Alaska says that they have 3,000 people who may not be citizens who are registered to vote. Now, I'm not clear right now how many of those actually voted. And the way that they're cleaning it up is they're telling the people, they're going to go to the right now. They're going to go to the right now. Again, not requiring proof to verify whether they are a citizen or not.
[00:30:54] And the ranked choice voting when they tried to repeal that in 2024, it failed by around 743 votes. 743 votes. So now you're sitting there wondering if there are 3,000 people who are non-citizens registered to vote in Alaska. Did they vote? Did they affect the outcome of that particular election? It creates doubt in the outcome of elections, which is wrong.
[00:31:23] That's why we've got to clean this up and restore that faith in the outcome of elections. Absolutely. Absolutely. So one of the things we found, the left will say, oh, you're disenfranchising people, having voter ID even disenfranchises people. It's not fair to them. Yet we found 95% of Americans have a valid ID that would be valid for voting. Right. Everyone does. And you know what's ironic? Yeah.
[00:31:52] And you need it. I mean, you need it to just show to people to get into different things, you know, airlines, travel, et cetera. But, you know, in your home state, when we had to fix after the 2020 elections in Georgia, when I worked for the late speaker, David Ralston, he made a point of putting voter ID in Georgia where you needed a valid ID to vote early in person,
[00:32:23] to vote early by absentee, to vote Dropbox, or on election day. Everybody had to have voter ID. And Joe Biden's yelling about Jim Crow. They get Major League Baseball to take the All-Star game away from Georgia, which really hurt Atlanta because a lot of good businesses would have made some money off that. But fortunately for the Georgians, the Atlanta Braves won the World Series that year.
[00:32:47] But, you know, the election that followed in 2022, Governor Kempf got reelected. The Republicans all statewide got elected except for Hershel Walker. Hershel Walker lost the U.S. Senate race. But it was a close race. But no one complained because they had a law in place that everybody had voter ID, and they knew it was upheld, and they knew whatever went wrong in 2020 was fixed.
[00:33:15] And the point of it is, as you say, we don't need that doubt in our democracy. We don't need people to worry if their votes will count, because then they worry about, should I even bother to vote? Look at California with all the ballot harvesting. I mean, when you look at what happened to Spencer Pratt, the guy was in the runoff until after Election Day. All of a sudden, some other Democrat wasn't doing well in the polls, and they still should do an audit of that because, you know,
[00:33:43] you've got the California Post finding homeless people. We're given two bucks a piece to vote. And God knows how many ballots were harvested because they mail ballots to everybody. And the unions and the Democrat organization goes out and collects them and files them. And who knows if the real citizens actually voted. So it's legalized corruption where they want to turn our country into a one-party state.
[00:34:13] Unfortunately, that would be run by big government socialists that would, you know, just don't share our values and really don't really like the United States. And now, you know, now we're finding out they want to rewrite the Constitution to take away our freedoms. It's absolutely horrible. And you're right. They should audit that election. However, if it's the city of Los Angeles or the state of California auditing it, it's probably like the fox is guarding the hen house. Yeah.
[00:34:41] Probably won't be able to trust the outcome of that as much as we would like to. We found that 66 percent of people don't think that having a voter ID is going to be an unfair barrier for voting. So the supermajority there. The supermajority, again, think that requiring proof of citizenship is not an unfair barrier. And when we explain that women will be able to file additional paperwork
[00:35:10] and if they don't have the necessary documents, they still are going to be able to register to vote by signing an attestation of their citizenship. Supermajority there agree that it's not unfair to women. So the arguments from the left, they just don't hold up in polling. They simply don't hold up. The supermajority of Americans think that this is it makes sense to get this bill done
[00:35:40] and that the arguments from the left are just not valid arguments. Right. And I credit you on the way you worded the questions because they're very fair. They're not biased. But they certainly the left doesn't want to hear these arguments because your point about that it's a reasonable requirement. I mean, 43% of the Democrats are gray. Hispanics, 39%. I mean, it's just Harrisvote is 42%. I mean, it goes across party lines where even though it's not a majority, it takes a ton of their voters.
[00:36:09] And your point about everybody's got, you know, some form of photo ID when you think about it. And it's not unusual for them to have to produce photo ID in a lot of their activities in daily life. But it's overwhelming support for proof of citizenship and voter ID. And by the way, it's always constant. It doesn't change. It's always over 80%.
[00:36:38] You asked this in January. You asked this last year. It's always over 80% proof of citizenship. And again, we always call registered voters. So there are citizens who are likely to vote. So we don't call illegal immigrants and ask them, but to the best of our knowledge. But it's always three quarters or more they have a photo ID. It's just such a common sense reform. And it just makes sense.
[00:37:07] It does make sense. And I hope that the Senate gets its act together and does what's right for America. And this isn't just right for MAGA voters. It's not just right for conservatives or even for Republicans. It's right for Democrats. It's right for leftists. It's right for the Marxists. Even it's right for everyone. This is the way that we know that when people go and vote, it's only Americans deciding who is going to govern us. That's how it should be.
[00:37:36] And that when you go to cast a ballot, you are who you say you are. It's pretty plain and simple. Democrats agree with it just almost just as much as Republicans. And certainly over the super majority agree with it. And Congress, I can't say Congress at this point because really it's the Senate. The Senate needs to get this done. They've got to find a way to get it done, whether it is passing it through the NDAA and getting Senate Democrats to vote for it or passing it through reconciliation.
[00:38:05] And it's a 51 vote threshold. It needs to be done. Absolutely. And when you look at, you know, no other country in the world allows this. I can think of. I've worked in a lot of democracies, countries where they don't shoot the pollster. Where, you know, every other country in the world, they have photo ID. They're required to vote. And most of them have, you can only vote on election day unless you're in the military or whatever.
[00:38:34] They don't have mass mail-out ballots because it's too prone to fraud. So it just makes sense. And last, no, in May, we asked the question, should they pass the Save America Act with voter ID and proof of citizenship? Or should they try to save the filibuster for the Senate? And 56-28, they said pass it.
[00:39:03] Only 28% said save the filibuster. So, you know, and there's probably some way to do it. But you've got the bad part is the outcome for Republicans. You've got these very narrow majorities in both the House and Senate that are depending upon turnout of Republican voters or Trump voters or independents or Democrats who voted for us before. And if they don't see us getting things done, they're not going to be prone to come.
[00:39:33] Why should they go out and vote for a party that can't get it done? So there's a lot of good things happening. The economy is percolating. We're holding down inflation. Our enemies know that America is strong and secure. Even the terrorists in Iran, you know, are at least faking their negotiating. But it's like there's a lot of things that are going right. But then on something as basic as honest elections, if you can't deliver, our voters all of a
[00:40:03] sudden, they lose their enthusiasm to vote for Republicans that don't carry out the agenda that President Trump's push forward, that they voted for. And he's their leader on these issues. So the Republicans who are going into November, they really need to get their act together on this and other issues so that they have a message so that there's a contrast with the big government socialists. That is exactly right.
[00:40:28] And I hope that this poll helps the Senate see that we're trying here to help them. We're trying to make sure that they understand America is on their side. By standing up and being bold on this particular issue, the Save America Act issue, you're not working against Americans. You're actually working for Americans. And that's what we expect when we elect senators. And they need to get this done. There are many options right now.
[00:40:57] The House is presenting them with several different options to get it done. They need to get it done. And I hope and pray that they will. And I know that you're doing all that you can to help. And we're making calls to action, working to get it done. But if they don't get it done, our country hangs in the balance right now, especially with the big government socialist Democrats who want to destroy the Bill of Rights, as you just talked about.
[00:41:25] It's very important that we get this done so we can focus on these other issues as we head into the final weeks going into the election. And we're only 98 days out from the election right now. Yes, absolutely. I mean, the election is... And by the way, a lot of states will start voting in September and October again because they have early voting. And when that happens, the votes are being cast. The Republicans are going to have a historic midterm convention.
[00:41:52] And what comes out of that convention for the Republicans for Saturday in Congress, they need to stand on a platform like Donald Trump did in 2024 when he came out of Milwaukee, that the majority of Americans agreed with him, saw the contrast with Kamala Harris, and they voted for President Trump. This historic midterm convention, they have a chance to basically say, we're right on the issues. You can support us on voter ID. You can support us on proof of citizenship.
[00:42:19] You can support us on tax cuts, not tax hikes, on securing the border, not opening the border, on stopping Iran, forgetting nuclear weapons. There's lots of issues that Americans really care about that need to be defined as a contrast going into the November election. Because if not, the tail is going to wag the dog for these Democrats where those socialists
[00:42:43] that are coming in, they're very cleverly getting them elected in districts where there's overwhelming numbers of Democrats like AOC. And Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, she's never had a tough race since she first got elected in her primary. So Mayor Mondani, who's definitely an avowed socialist and really anti-United States in
[00:43:08] a lot of ways, he's got three of his Democrat socialist candidates who won their primaries and they're likely to go on into Congress. So you'll get these radicals that'll be the tail wagging the dog inside the Democrat Congress and the Democrat majority in their caucus. So we really have to, we really have to draw a sharp contrast that any Democrat that you
[00:43:33] vote for is a part of that majority that's going to be advancing these big government socialist ideas and taking away our freedoms. That is exactly right, John. We have to make sure we are making that case because the Marxists, the big government Democrat socialists are going to be in Congress where they won primaries in very gerrymandered congressional districts. We've got to make sure that we're holding on to that majority.
[00:44:03] The majority that loves America, cares about America and wants to hold on to our Constitution so that we have a fighting chance. And I think one of the things that the Senate has to do is pass the Save America Act. And then we all have to go out and make sure we're drawing that contrast between the free market Republican ideas and the big government socialist Democrat ideas. Yes, absolutely. John McLaughlin, thank you so much for joining me today.
[00:44:32] And thanks for doing the polling and giving insight into it and helping us understand how we need to talk as we go into the midterm elections and what we need to be focused on so we can get the Senate to pass the Save America Act. Well, it's an honor to help you because we've known each other for years now and you certainly helped advance President Trump and lots of other good conservative Republicans who really believe in freedom and free enterprise and trying to do the right things for America. So it's an honor to help you in your work.
[00:45:03] And you do write great poll questions. So thank you. Thank you, John. Thank you. If you enjoyed today's conversation, go ahead and hit like and subscribe. It really helps us reach more people who care about liberty and the Constitution. You can find this and other episodes at JennyBestShow.com, as well as Facebook, YouTube, Rumble, Instagram, X, and your favorite podcast platform. The Jenny Beth Show is hosted by Jenny Beth Martin.
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