Fauci Pleads the Fifth 100 Times & Florida Opens a Criminal Case | Harris, Vargas, McNeily

[00:00:00] The man who told America to shut down our churches, close our schools, and padlock our businesses sat in front of the United States Senate yesterday. And more than a hundred times he refused to answer a single question. He took the fifth over and over and over. The one man who claimed to have every answer in 2020 was silent. Welcome to The Jenny Beth Show. I'm Jenny Beth Martin.

[00:00:24] Welcome to The Jenny Beth Show. It's Thursday, July 30th, 90-60s from the midterm elections. And I have to tell you, yesterday was personal for me.

[00:00:49] Just six years ago, I stood on the steps of the United States Supreme Court with Dr. Simone Gold, Dr. Joe Latipo, Congressman Ralph Norman, and a dozen other frontline doctors. We held the White Coat Summit and we held a press conference in front of the Supreme Court. We warned the country of the side effects to the lockdowns and the mandates, and that they could wind up being worse than the disease itself.

[00:01:14] We told Americans there was reason to have hope, that real doctors were finding ways to treat COVID and to save lives. We went viral, and then we were censored, maligned, mocked, and attacked. Just over six years ago, Dr. Simone Gold and I stood in front of the Supreme Court with Dr. Joe Latipo, about a dozen other doctors, and Congressman Ralph Norman.

[00:01:39] We were warning that the lockdowns and mandates related to COVID might well have consequences and side effects that were much worse than the actual disease for healthy individuals. These doctors told Americans that they were able to treat the symptoms and urge people not to be so afraid and to have hope because doctors were learning more about the disease and able to treat it and to help people survive. Our video went viral, and then we were censored.

[00:02:09] We were mocked, we were maligned, and we were attacked. But we never backed down. We knew there needed to be a second opinion, and we knew that Americans deserve better than what we were seeing from so many in our government like Dr. Fauci. Today, Dr. Fauci will be in a congressional hearing chaired by Senator Rand Paul. Senator Rand Paul has never given up.

[00:02:33] He has stood for healthcare and medical freedom for years, and he's been on the front line making sure that we know the truth about COVID and about liberty. I appreciate everything he's done. So we're going to be watching this hearing today, seeing what Anthony Fauci has to say. His diaries proved these doctors were vindicated. They have been vindicated, and they were right. America deserved a second opinion. We deserve to have hope.

[00:03:01] We did not deserve the lockdowns and the mandates and the lies we got from people like Anthony Fauci. So we'll be watching today and look forward to learning even more about how wrong he was and how right the front line doctors were. That clip was from yesterday. I recorded it while I was in Washington, D.C., working on the Save America Act. And for our listening audience, you couldn't see. I encourage you to go find our video if you're listening.

[00:03:29] But we had images from when we were outside of the Supreme Court with the doctors from America's front line doctors in 2020. Over the years, we watched those warnings play out one heartbreak at a time. And this weekend, we read in horror as the very worst of our suspicions about Anthony Fauci were confirmed in his own diaries. Watching Senator Rand Paul's hearing yesterday, I believe the whole world can finally see it.

[00:03:56] Time has vindicated every doctor who simply tried to save lives and to calm people's fears. I owe a debt of gratitude to the people who stood with us when it was not popular. Congressman Ralph Norman and Andy Biggs, Senators Rand Paul, Ron Johnson and Mike Lee. They were by our side in March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October and so on in 2020.

[00:04:22] But understand, they were there at the end of March and beginning of April in 2020 working with us to make sure that we could find a way to reduce fear, give hope, and treat those who are most vulnerable to the worst side effects of COVID. And they never once have flinched from standing for medical freedom, health care freedom and the doctor patient relationship.

[00:04:46] Before I bring in our next clip, before I bring in our first guest, let me show you this one clip from yesterday's hearing that really stood out to me. It's where Dr. Fauci refused to look at people who were harmed by his own lockdown policies. Do me a favor in the audience and stand up if during the time of the COVID pandemic, you were called a racist for calling the virus a Wuhan virus or the China virus.

[00:05:14] If you thought the six foot rule was total crap. If you thought the vaccine wasn't something that you should take. If you thought it was outrageous the way the mass policy was rolled out. If you were fired from your job for not taking that vaccine, including members of the military. If you thought closing schools was catastrophically stupid. And that you thought that during these times saying these things made you somehow a lesser human being.

[00:05:48] Dr. Fauci, can you just turn around and look at the people behind you? You're not willing to do that? Is that a question? It's not a question. To your lawyers, it's not a question. It's a request. All you have to do is look up from your lawyers and look at the people who were absolutely shamed for saying what we know now to be the truth. You can't even look at them?

[00:06:18] He refused to turn around and look at them. He shunned them. And that's exactly what he did in 2020 and 2021 and 2022 and 2023 and 2024 and 2025. He took care of one group of people and ignored all the rest. He was worried about the worst harm to COVID and he ignored all the harm he was doing to so many other millions of Americans. He shunned them then and he shunned them again yesterday.

[00:06:47] We're going to talk about that hearing in the rest of the day's news. And I couldn't have a better guest to get us started. Congressman Mark Harris is a pastor, a fighter and one of the hardest working members of the House of Representatives. Congressman Harris, thank you so much for being on with me today. Well, Jenny Beth, it's a pleasure to be with you and thank you so much for having me here. So you let's just get your reaction before we get into to the other items that the House has worked on.

[00:07:14] What was your reaction to watching Dr. Anthony Fauci yesterday? And in 2020, you were pastor of a church, right? Did it affect your church? It did affect our church.

[00:07:25] And I mean, listen, when you listened to all of that unfold yesterday, it was so clear that Anthony Fauci had determined that he was going to use his power to really, quite frankly, undermine any public trust, any public confidence that there has been in our public health institutions.

[00:07:46] And I think that Josh Hawley kind of nailed it when he said that, you know, when you really look at the big picture of this, this whole story is going to end in his career of being one of disgrace, one of misleading, one of undermining any of the confidence that any of us have had. And, you know, rebuilding that confidence, I don't know if it's ever even going to be possible. But Anthony Fauci has really demonstrated that.

[00:08:16] And I think that, look, I am grateful that the exposure came yesterday because that was really what was happening. He was refusing to answer the questions. He was playing his game with the Fifth Amendment. And, by the way, kudos to Senator Paul by not backing down, not stepping back, that he is determining that they're going to vote next week on a referral, perhaps, to the Department of Justice of Fauci for his contempt of Congress.

[00:08:43] And listen, not only contempt of Congress, he demonstrated contempt for the American people throughout that whole experience yesterday. And again, it's something that is going to be brought into account. He was wrong about masks. He was wrong about the six-foot rule. He was wrong about lockdowns. He was wrong about all of those things. And he wasn't even willing to apologize about where he was wrong. And, yes, it affected our churches.

[00:09:13] It affected children in school. It affected so many things, families that were separated from their loved ones, even in their last hours of life. And yet this man, by his diaries, tells the whole story that he was so caught up in wanting to somehow be a star that he missed it. And the American people have paid a tremendous, tremendous price. They truly have.

[00:09:41] And Congressman Harris, very quickly, before we go into the other things, talking about the harms of COVID, you are a minister. My father is a minister. My father had to do three funerals from mid-March until early May of 2020. And families not being able to go into the hospital to see their loved ones. And then you as a minister having to pick up.

[00:10:09] And in some places around the country, they would not even allow funerals to happen. How did that affect you and your ability to give pastoral care at the time when people need that care more than any other time in their life? Well, it was just it was so we just felt cheated. We felt cheated out of things that families should have been able to be together during that time. Church families should have been able to be together.

[00:10:38] And again, funerals were somewhat limited to just being held graveside services. And even with that, people were expected to have all of this distancing. The protocols that funeral homes were utilizing certainly affected what families were able to experience. And then even trying to hold services. I mean, we had to go to multiple services just to be able to try to honor this six-foot distancing.

[00:11:04] And look, when all of that came down in March, I'm thankful for pastors in North Carolina that got together and actually filed a suit against the governor, who now wants to be our U.S. senator from North Carolina, Governor Cooper at that time, and said, this is wrong. He cannot close churches. He cannot tell churches they cannot meet.

[00:11:28] And by May, we actually had an injunction by a judge that said, no, he cannot do that. And churches reopened immediately. And of course, many of our churches continued to meet even during that time. But they were trying to meet creatively. They were meeting outdoors. There was so much that was done that was forced on us by government. And particularly Anthony Fauci, who, again, even admitted that the six-foot rule just came from nowhere.

[00:11:58] At the same time, he's getting up and saying, follow the science, follow the science, follow the science. And there really wasn't any science to it at all. No science to it at all. It cost people financially, businesses trying to accommodate that stupid rule that became an absolute mandate from local governments. It just was horrible. So I'm glad. I'm so, so thankful for Senator Rand Paul.

[00:12:25] And I'll be interested to watch the contempt hearing or vote next week. And then we'll go from there. All right. Let's shift gears to talk about what the House, because you are in the House of Representatives, actually got done before you left town for August. You did so much. You got the reconciliation framework for or the budget framework for reconciliation 3.0 passed. And the Save America Act is going to be added to that.

[00:12:51] You passed the National Defense Authorization Act and added the Save America Act to it. You passed the No Insider Stock Trading Act and added voter ID to it. And the House side is showing that you are trying to get done what the president wants, what the American people want. You also passed a continuing resolution trying to avoid a Democrat shutdown. That's right. The government funding will end on September 30th.

[00:13:20] So walk us through those huge accomplishments that you guys got done last week. Well, Jenny Beth, thank you so much for mentioning those, because it was a busy week on Capitol Hill. I mean, even in the midst of those votes, we were still going through markups and we were actually held the judiciary markup on H.R. 2, which is the strongest immigration legislation that really backs up what President Trump has had to do by executive order.

[00:13:47] We're wanting to get H.R. 2 passed, hopefully, in this Congress and Judiciary Committee took it up just this past week as well. So in the midst of all of those votes, but those were crucial votes because you're exactly right. We wanted to take with the continuing resolution, we wanted to take the page out of the Democrat playbook that they have seemed to go to every time.

[00:14:09] And that is, in order to slow President Trump down, in order to stop the America First agenda, their best notion is, let's just shut the government down. So we wanted to make sure by extending a C.R. to December 4th that we were going to extend the funding of the government and they wouldn't be able to manipulate and play that game come September 30th. That is so important. Now, we passed it.

[00:14:36] It's now going to be in the hands of the Senate, and we just pray to the good Lord that they'll find either seven Democrats that will come to their senses and realize that keeping the government open is important. But it is clearly, clearly on the Democrats in the U.S. Senate as to what's going to happen with that C.R. So I think that's an important part. The budget resolution, as you said, we've unlocked Reconciliation 3.0. That's going to be important.

[00:15:04] And, of course, part of that funding that we had to do is going to be able to get the states that don't have voter ID to have the financial piece that they can't hide behind that. And that is going to be part of it. Now, again, what the Senate does with that, we're going to have to wait and see. But we have unlocked the key, and we kept it very simple.

[00:15:26] That was going to take care of some military funding, took care of some needs for agriculture and for our farmers who have had a very tough season right now. And then it's going to make sure that we get that funding in there for the Save America Act that would make a difference in the long run. So that was absolutely crucial. And then the NDAA, we wanted to make sure that the military is supported. That's an important piece of legislation.

[00:15:53] In fact, it gives our military, men and women who are on the front lines of defending our freedom, even a well-needed 5% to 7% raise that their families can count on and know that it's there. It's important for the Senate to act. And again, as you mentioned, we added the Save America Act to that as well to make sure that we're able to get action over in the Senate, hopefully on that. So there are a lot of key things.

[00:16:21] And, of course, the banning stock trading was important as well. And I feel like that that is something that we're trying to respond to the American people. But Speaker Johnson has been very aggressive, and I appreciate his willingness to get these things done and to put the pressure over on Senator Thune and the Senate. And the Save America Act, that is the no-brainer.

[00:16:44] I mean, it's hard for us to even fathom why the Senate would be sitting on that and why they would be doing anything to stop that in the process. And, listen, we've got to have Republicans united. And so there's various tools that have been used, and all of those things we passed to help get the Save America Act over the finish line. And the Speaker's been committed to it. We're moving together. All parties have come together.

[00:17:13] And, look, with such a thin margin, a thin margin of just a few votes, we've been able to do it in the House and get it done. And I hope the American people understand that. And I hope the American people are going to reward that when they go to the polls this November. But we've got to put the pressure between now and then on the Senate to get them to move and get them to act. That is absolutely right.

[00:17:37] And the House is queuing it up, or teeing it up, I guess, so that the Senate can take action. And you're giving the Senate a lot of opportunities to do so. So, we will keep working on that from the activist side. Now, Congressman, you've stated that you're going to continue to fight for a warrant requirement and lasting reforms to protect the Fourth Amendment.

[00:18:00] So, explain what is going on with FISA and why we have to guard and protect the Fourth Amendment related to FISA. Well, obviously, we've been having a conversation throughout this period of time because FISA was set to expire. And as a matter of fact, it has expired.

[00:18:21] Now, I want to be clear, FISA has not gone dark because there were still things that were put in place that had an extension, if you would, that allows them to continue doing their work.

[00:18:32] And I don't think anybody disagrees with FISA 702 in its, I guess, in its essence, if you will, that we want to make sure that we keep Americans secure by having the freedom to surveil foreigners and the work that they're doing, the communication they're having.

[00:18:52] The problem is that there's not enough safety things in place, including a warrant that I've been pushing for, in order to make sure that Americans don't get caught up when we are surveilling maybe a foreign target. And there were some abuses a couple of years ago that took place that were extensive.

[00:19:17] And so there were some reforms that were made in the previous Congress, but those reforms, in my mind and heart, didn't go quite far enough to totally protect the Fourth Amendment. Now, did they do some good? Admittedly, they did.

[00:19:31] I mean, you had a lot of bad actors, if you will, even within our own law enforcement that were taking advantage of FISA and even maybe spying on girlfriends or ex-girlfriends or ex-spouses or all kinds of things. And that got cleaned up. There were reforms that helped with that.

[00:19:54] But what we really were hoping for and what we really wanted to do was to see some more reforms that are taking place. And so we've been working for that. I'm, as you mentioned, a big proponent that we would have a warrant in some fashion, some form needs to be a part of this. And I think that's important. Even the CBDC, the digital currency, we're fighting for that because that would be the ultimate surveillance, if you will.

[00:20:23] And we've got to make sure the ban gets in place for that. A permanent ban, actually, is what we would like to see there. So there's a number of things where folks, even in church, we put in an amendment to try to make a change that when you're sitting in church, that your information that gets picked up just by that. How about now? Can you hear me now? Somehow not be available. Sweet. So those are all the kind of things that we're kind of fighting for, that some reforms would take place.

[00:20:52] And so right now, with all of these things that had to happen before we left town for August recess, that is sort of on the back burner. But it is something that is going to be facing us again very, very soon. And we've got to be stalwart in our standing up for the Fourth Amendment. And, Mark, one of the things that I've heard other congressmen say is that, oh, if we allow a warrant to take place, it'll take too long and there could be a terrorist attack on our country.

[00:21:21] So what is your response to that? And I know that you and the others advocating for this have a response. I'm not trying to trick you or anything. I just wonder, how do you overcome that question? Listen, the chairman of our intelligence committee, Rick Crawford, has been a strong stand. Jim Jordan, who is chairman of the Judiciary Committee that I serve on, he has been a strong proponent. They are working to come up with some specific answers and specific ways that we can do that.

[00:21:50] It's the intelligence community that talks about how long it would take. And I get that. I don't want to put anybody at risk. And I do understand that there is information that continues to be shared that does talk about there would be risk involved. But I also understand that the American people have got to have the confidence that they're not being spied on by their own government.

[00:22:14] And at a time where, heaven's sake, when you look at yesterday's hearing and people have lost confidence in our public institutions at so many levels and have good reason to do so, why don't we do something that restores confidence to the American people that they're going to be safe, they're going to be secure, and they're not going to have to be concerned about their own government invading their privacy?

[00:22:41] I think it's very good that you are working on this. The Fourth Amendment exists for a reason, and we do have to make sure we are protecting it. We don't want terrorist attacks to happen, and we also don't want our own government to infringe on our rights. Congressman Harris, you have been busy with your own bills as well. You're leading an effort to protect food assistance from retail or fraud, and you have introduced two bills to cut bureaucracy from the Department of Education,

[00:23:10] and you have a Parity Act that takes a double standard against career and trade schools out of the way, so there won't be a double standard. You're doing a lot of work. Tell us about those bills that you're introducing and leading the way on that mean the most to you. Well, Jenny Beth, one of the things that I'm really excited about is that I was a big fan.

[00:23:36] I was only 14 years old when Ronald Reagan got elected as president, and I had the opportunity to volunteer for him in the summer of 1980. One of the things that Ronald Reagan ran on was that he was going to dismantle the Department of Education. He was going to get the federal government out of the business of dictating to the states and dictating to our local areas,

[00:24:00] because he recognized that anything the federal government gets in only grows and grows and becomes a monster out of control. And sure enough, that was back in the early 1980s that Reagan committed that he wanted to see the Department of Education. It has taken fast forward all of these years to Donald Trump, who said, we're going to cut the bureaucracy and we're going to do away with the Department of Education.

[00:24:29] I'm very honored and thankful to be a part of this Congress, where not only the things he's been able to do by executive order, we're now able to take some congressional action in the House of Representatives. So I did introduce a couple of the bills and was most proud of those that would actually take the Department of Education K through 12 and also higher education,

[00:24:54] and we would remove those from the Department of Education and we would move them over to the Department of Labor. Again, we're simply making some interagency moves at this particular point to cut the bureaucracy. We want to keep the services. We want to keep the things that are good and that are working.

[00:25:15] But we know that there's so much bureaucracy and so many positions and so many people that are working within the Department of Education that can be done away with. Because the big picture is, and this is what most people recognize, is we want to return education to the states and to the local, because that's when parents are going to be able to have their voices heard.

[00:25:39] And we all know, we all live by the philosophy that the closer governance gets to home, the more effective that government is going to be. And so when it comes to education, I'm a firm believer that we've got to put it in the hands of our parents once again and our local communities. And so that's what I'm most excited about. A lot of the work and the details of these bills really is part of a bigger picture.

[00:26:06] And that is where the Department of Education and Secretary McMahon has done a lot of what they could do, making these interagency agreements. It's now taking some acts of Congress to actually get this into law. And this is the first step. And that's what we've been working on. And I'm very excited about it, quite frankly. It's very exciting. And think about that.

[00:26:30] You volunteered on President Reagan's first campaign, and he was trying to dismantle the Department of Education that had been in place for less than four years at the time. And now four decades later, we're still trying to dismantle it. So it's amazing work, and I'm very glad you're working on it. Well, thank you. And it wouldn't be possible if it weren't for folks like you and your listeners that continue to speak up and speak out.

[00:26:59] And listen, it's a testimony that you don't give up in this arena. You just keep fighting, and you keep fighting. And sooner or later, you're going to get there. That's exactly right. And that is precisely right. We can never, ever give up. Even when things don't go our way, we keep standing for liberty and keep working towards our goal. Okay, I have one quick question for you, one sentence before we go. Do you think the Save America Act will become law by November?

[00:27:29] I pray so. I believe that there are members in the Senate that are working that have demonstrated a sense of confidence that they're going to be able to get it over the finish line. I think we've used every angle that I know of in the House to get it attached to or get it as part of legislation we've moved out.

[00:27:56] I think it's going to be up to the American people at the end of the day. I count the votes, and honestly, I see those that are lame ducks, if you will, already that aren't coming back to the Senate. And if they choose to stand in the way of what the American people want, then I guess that's their prerogative, and they could do it. But I am hopeful that there's going to be some of them that are going to come around, and we're going to see this happen.

[00:28:22] I am hopeful as well, and I think praying is always a good thing to do. And I pray that those who—there's still just a few Republicans and all of the Democrats who are not quite sure on this legislation, and I pray that they can listen and open their hearts and minds and understand we're not trying to harm anyone. We're just trying to protect Americans and their vote. And it's so simple, Jenny Beth. I mean, so simple.

[00:28:48] You look at the House version that we passed, just simply prove citizenship to register to vote and then show a photo ID. That's right. There is nothing oppressive about that in any way, shape, or form. It's that simple. That's right. And the supermajority of Americans agree with you on that. Americans across the board, whether they're Republican or Democrat or Independent, agree that we should be showing proof of citizenship to register to vote and to have a voter ID.

[00:29:24] That's right. We can't. We can't. We cannot let them leave without finishing this fight.

[00:29:51] So pick up your phone and call the Capitol switchboard. You know the drill. Call both of your senators at 202-224-3121 and tell each senator to stay in session and to pass the Save America Act before leaving town. For more details to get answers to frequently asked questions, to email your senators, you can go to pass the Save America Act dot com. All right.

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[00:31:17] Welcome to the Jenny Best Show. Welcome back. I've got two great voices with me now. Mark Fargus, who is the editor-in-chief of the Illinois Review, and my co-host, Robert McNeely. Mark, or Robert, there we have both of them. Mark, thanks so much for joining me. Of course. Great to be on my maiden voyage here on your show. Very good. I'm so glad you're on. And then, Robert, as always, I'm glad that you're with me as well. Oh, thank you, Jenny Beth.

[00:31:47] A great first half as well with Congressman Harris. What a great voice for us from the Tar Heel State. That is exactly right. If only his senator who is leaving office, Senator Tillis, would vote for the Save America Act. We've got to keep putting pressure on Senator Tillis. Okay, Mark, let's start with you. Back in June, you wrote about how Tulsi Gabbard's disclosures exposed what families deserve to know about the origins of COVID.

[00:32:13] And yesterday, or over the weekend, we had Fauci's own diaries talking about the origins of COVID. What did we learn this weekend, and what did it confirm about what you've already been writing about this? Well, first of all, grateful to Tulsi Gabbard for releasing these government documents. And secondly, grateful to Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., whose office discovered these across 11 servers at HHS, over 1,000 pages.

[00:32:41] A diary that Anthony Fauci never thought would ever see the light of day. But as Secretary Kennedy said during multiple news interviews, what does this reveal? Fauci lied about everything. He lied about the origins of COVID. He lied about social distancing and masking. We learned that Fauci actually had a heart condition. He developed a heart condition that is related to the vaccine, something that he kept hidden. And so this is saying one thing but doing another.

[00:33:11] And he knows that he's in trouble. You saw how shaky his hands were when he was reading his prepared statement at yesterday's hearing and that he invoked the Fifth Amendment, what, approximately 115 times. His demeanor, those that were in the room, Fauci knows he's in trouble. He knows his diary is very, very damaging. And all he could do was use the advice of counsel and plead the Fifth. He's in real serious trouble. And he is in serious trouble. I don't know.

[00:33:40] His pardon is quite extensive. He's 85 years old. I heard Senator Ron Johnson on an X-Space that I was on with him last night saying that he's 85. He's not or probably not going to jail, but history is going to judge him. And for narcissists like Fauci, that what happened yesterday was a step towards bringing about accountability.

[00:34:11] That just watching him yesterday, it just infuriated me. And it infuriated so many other people because we all know people or we ourselves have personally been harmed from his lockdowns and his mandates. And he can't answer for it. And in his opening statements, he talked about in his opening statement, he talked about how his personal diary was revealed. Well, I've got news for you.

[00:34:40] If you've got a personal diary, don't put it on your government hard drive. Like, this is pretty simple. And it's bad. But I'm so thankful, as you just said, that Senator Kennedy has made those available because now we see what Fauci was actually thinking as he said one thing to America and really thought something completely different.

[00:35:09] Robert, I'm sorry. I just keep getting on a soapbox about it because it just makes me so mad. Robert, you watched the hearing. What was your impression and what was the one moment that stuck out with you and you think is going to stick out with people? Well, I share that righteous anger, Jenny Beth, because I was someone in broadcast mainstream media all the way up in Anchorage, Alaska.

[00:35:29] And I lost my position because I had a medical exemption and that was not abided by or granted by the employer at the time. So very disturbing. But a lot of that was drawn by the pressure of the federal government was created by this Dr. Death, Anthony Fauci, really an awful man. I think it was very clear yesterday. And some of the things that stick out, the fact that he could not look back at the people who were affected by these horrible mandates.

[00:35:59] He could not answer Senator Hawley asking very natural law questions. What's the color of the carpet? What's the color of your tie? Do you have a folder in front of you as Senator Rand Paul, the chairman, really bringing Dr. Fauci to task there? And I think we have another clip from those hearings in case you missed it yesterday. Two idiotic politicians who enforce those rules. Arrested that mom.

[00:36:25] For watching a football game with her own family outside. When that story broke. I said to myself, I cannot stand idly on the side and watch this happen. It was about six years ago today that I decided I'm going to give up my businesses, sell them all, run for office, run through the United States Senate.

[00:36:52] Here I am sitting in front of you six years later saying, who the fuck do you think you were for doing that? It is a total disgrace what you did to this country. And if my Democrat colleagues are standing there defending you, I hope the voters of the United States of America watch the clips of every one of you doting on a guy who was more interested in being a celebrity than saving American people.

[00:37:19] Senator Bernie Marino telling it like it is from the Buckeye State selling his car dealerships, leaving private business simply to get involved in the arena. To get off the bench, get into the game. And I think so many of us have been spurred to this moment in history because of these lockdowns and these mandates, which cause so much pain and cruelty to countless families, including death to loss of jobs and still learning loss with what's happened in the education system.

[00:37:48] Mark, a federal pardon was supposed to make all of this go away for Fauci. But now we've got Florida's attorney general has he he's opened a criminal investigation. And then we have, of course, what we discussed before with Senator Rand Paul setting a contempt vote for August the 5th. What what do you how do you think this is going to play out? Well, Jenny Beth, I have a unique experience in this.

[00:38:13] I've been, by God's grace, a part of three very high profile and successful acts of executive clemency with President Donald Trump, Rob Blagojevich, Roger Stone and Ross Ulbricht. And so I understand sort of the pardon process a little bit more than probably the average person. And it's frustrating. But there's potential challenges. Number one, we know this was auto pen. We know that Joe Biden didn't know where the heck he was or what he was doing at the time this was signed going back all the way to 2014. I've been looking pouring through this.

[00:38:43] I've been talking to attorneys throughout the country. And it seems like some legal remedies at this time because of all the immunity and Jenny. But this is the problem that we have in our country today. There's weaponization. You could have federal prosecutors destroy families, destroy businesses, and they're cloaked in immunity. And they get big jobs at massive law firms and multimillion dollar contracts on CNN. Same thing happens with Fauci. As these government officials, they can destroy a country. Millions and millions have died.

[00:39:11] Hundreds of millions affected emotionally and spiritually and psychologically. And what happens? He gets a presidential pardon. But I think this is going to be up to these state attorney generals, particularly in Republican states, civil lawsuits with families, class action lawsuits with families. But I think that is going to be the angle because right now we're blocked at the federal level. But I think at the state level with these state attorney generals, that's the loophole in order to go after Dr.

[00:39:38] Fauci and try and hold him accountable for these crimes that he's committed against humanity. Well, in the civil angle is very interesting to me because he was profiting, apparently, off of all of this as people were suffering. And he was a high-speed government employee, and then he was profiting off of it. So it will be very interesting to see how some of this plays out. Think about this for one second.

[00:40:04] Dr. Fauci and his wife, who was also a government official, they were making combined $1 million a year. A husband and wife, $1 million a year in government salary and benefits while he destroyed our country. Yeah, it's absolutely terrible. And I don't begrudge people earning a big salary. What I have a problem with is that he was a government employee and his wife was a government employee.

[00:40:32] And he was setting up companies at the same time or buying into companies that were affected by decisions that he was making. So it seems really close to the same kind of insider trading people are upset about with Congress. It's just very, really, it just sounds very, very corrupt. Robert knows a little bit about this, but I actually had a conversation with the president in early February on this.

[00:41:01] But Governor J.B. Pritzker in Illinois kept talking about get tested, get over and over, don't stop testing, keep testing. Well, guess what? Several years later, we figured out why. We were able to connect the dots. A company in his so-called blind trust got a $20 billion, that's with the B, $20 billion state government contract, all taxpayer funded for, you ready for this, COVID testing. And yet he claims he had no idea about this.

[00:41:29] And I made the comment that J.B. Pritzker's blind trust has 2020 vision. These politicians, these officials were benefiting, were profiting, making money, billions and billions of dollars. And Governor Pritzker and his one company in his so-called blind trust are proof of that. That is the kind of corruption that is just very, very disgusting.

[00:41:52] So when we talk about the amount of money that Fauci and his wife were making, that's where the frustration is coming from. Because it seems like he also was personally benefiting on top of a very, very high paid salary. And he was paid that very high paid salary because presumably they knew they knew that if he was in the private sector, he could make a lot of money.

[00:42:14] So they're trying to offset it. But then he was also trying to offset it from prizes with government money from grants and prizes that the government was funding. And it's just it's gross. It's awful. But the good news is if if there could be civil cases that go after that, then maybe some of the people who were victims from it could get compensation. It's never going to solve and make them whole completely.

[00:42:41] But maybe it can can help send a message and a lesson to other bureaucrats that there can be civil consequences that they face if they do anything like this to Americans in the future. OK, now let's turn to the Justice Department. Robert, this one was breaking as we were going to air. The Senate Judiciary Committee was supposed to vote for Todd Blanch for attorney general today.

[00:43:07] And that vote got postponed because two Republicans, John Cornyn and Tom Tillis, are still withholding their support over the Justice Department settlement from the lawsuit that President Trump had. What do you make of Republicans holding this up?

[00:43:26] And I believe that President Trump also has now said he's willing to pause the nomination of of Todd Blanch until there are new new senators and in place since those two are outgoing senators. What what do you make of all of this? Well, here we go again. Ben, I think for Cornyn and Tillis, it's really their John McCain and Mitt Romney moment. It's retribution. And that's not how you should act based on disagreements or a simple personality difference from the president of the United States.

[00:43:56] It's very simple as I see it with the Article two and how Article one interact. When the president is elected by the people and through our Electoral College and has that seat, he or potentially she in the future is afforded that opportunity to make these constitutional selections to fill out his cabinet and his appointees. Of course, in certain circumstances with the consent and advice from the United States Senate, we're seeing that here.

[00:44:25] But with the attorney general, at least through their lame duck sessions now with Cornyn and Tillis respectfully going into January of twenty twenty seven, you have a situation where Todd Blanch can serve as the acting attorney general without that congressional oversight as a result. But I see this simply as retribution because quite simply, President Trump, when you get into the proverbial ring with him, he's probably going to one up you.

[00:44:51] We saw that there. Ken Paxton, now the nominee in Texas and also in North Carolina, Tom Tillis, retiring that seat. But very sad to see how they would hang up someone as impressive as Mr. Blanch for this role simply out of political retribution. And then, Mark, very quickly, what do you think that their objections, the objections that Cornyn and Tillis have are principled or do you think it's leverage or do you think it's just sour grapes?

[00:45:20] It's sour grapes to echo Robert's comments. What I've been calling it actually is the rhino revenge tour. That's what this is all about, the rhino revenge tour. And what Americans have been wanting is transparency and accountability. There is no mechanism right now for these flawed prosecutions where they lie, cheat, steal, hide evidence that proves innocence. They target using agencies to target political enemies. And what happens to those individuals?

[00:45:48] Nothing. And so when American people are asking for transparency and accountability, but this is all boils down to the rhino revenge tour. This is what's why Senator Cassidy at the time was trying to block Secretary Kennedy's nomination in committee because he doesn't like President Donald Trump. That's what it was all politics. And so I think the president's playing offense on this and said, regardless, we'll wait until these guys are out and then we'll I'll renominate them and we'll be good as gold.

[00:46:16] Yeah, and I think that that's the way he's going to have to approach it. OK, two quick stories that are good news. Robert, crime is collapsing. Homicides are down 18 percent in the first half of this year on pace for the lowest rate in 126 years. Carjackings are down nearly half. Why is the country not hearing more about this? Yeah, kudos to our men and women in blue, first and foremost, federal, state to local law enforcement. Just an amazing job.

[00:46:44] It's remarkable when you give these good people the tools to actually do their job in the first place, how you can have great results. But I really do believe, Jenny, that the mainstream media is out to really kind of quiet these stories because it doesn't give them clickbait. It doesn't give them the appropriate ratings.

[00:47:05] But also then in turn, because you had situations like the National Guard at the behest of the president of the United States going into Washington, D.C., cleaning it up. We've been there recently. The graffiti is gone. You have a homeless situation that is becoming solved through public and private partnerships. You have a secure border with Mexico now down south. And, of course, we're watching what's happening in Canada because of a lot of that illicit drug trafficking and the angel families we hear from.

[00:47:33] We learn that the very liberal governments of not only Mark Carney, but Justin Trudeau prior to Canada, to the north of us, were also part of that trafficking ring and was just completely open during the Biden administration. So, sadly, I believe it's this mainstream media that doesn't want to give those wins over to President Trump. But it's more than that. This is bipartisan. Everyone wants safety and everyone should feel that they have that regardless of the zip code they live in right here in America.

[00:48:03] That is exactly right. And then, Mark, here's another one that I thought was very interesting. The Trump administration launched something called Freedom Haulers.

[00:48:12] It recruits military veterans to drive trucks, and it comes alongside a crackdown that the administration has had where they've pulled tens of thousands of commercial driver's licenses from people who were improperly issued those, including people who were in the country illegally and cannot, and also people who cannot speak English. So what does this tell you about how the administration is governing?

[00:48:38] Well, no administration loves our military and our veterans more than President Trump's administration. And he's crystal clear. This is an issue that's near and dear to my heart. I'm the son of a truck driver. I'm not wearing a blue collar, but I've got a blue blazer. My dad still drives an 18-wheeler 5,000 miles across the country every single week. But this is a huge issue. He talks about these guys, illegal immigrants that are driving trucks that are only using Google Translate. They're talking to police officers.

[00:49:06] They're getting fuel using their Google Translate. It's why, and just in 2025 alone, there's been over 17 accidents resulting in over 30 deaths. Who are the drivers? Illegal truck drivers who got driver's licenses when they shouldn't have. This is a story that haunts many people in Illinois. Robert might remember this. In 1994, the Willis family killed six children. It was a truck driver who illegally bribed a member of the Secretary of State's office and obtained a CDL.

[00:49:35] And as a result, six children died in this horrific car crash in 1994. So kudos to President Trump supporting our veterans, making sure they have jobs, but more importantly, securing the roads. It's extremely important to secure the roads. And if you're one of the families who had a wreck and lost a loved one because of the people who are improperly and illegally given one of those CDL driver's licenses,

[00:50:06] it's too late for you, but I'm sure that you want it for everyone else because what happened to those families should never happen to any family. Okay, we're going to take a quick break. But, Mark, before we do that, you have some interesting artwork and photos on your wall. It looks to me like you've got something that is signed by President Trump on the wall, and there's some photos of you at the White House and of President Trump. Can you tell us anything about this?

[00:50:32] Yeah, that's a signed presidential copy of a presidential pardon of Roger Stone, which I worked on clemency for Roger Stone. That was a photo behind me of Rod Blagojevich and President Trump. I helped instrumental in getting Rod Blagojevich's presidential commutation. That was an opportunity that we were at Mar-a-Lago there in the living room to thank the president personally for his commutation. And another White House Christmas party this last year, 2025.

[00:50:59] And then I've gotten to know, obviously, America's mayor, Mayor Rudy Giuliani, very well. And so we've taken several trips on private jets together. And so I've got a lot of those photos hanging on my wall as well. Those are really awesome photos. And I went to the White House to see the Christmas decorations as well. And I think my favorite were the Lego with the Lego of George Washington and of President Trump. OK, we'll be right back after this quick break.

[00:51:54] Welcome back. And Mark Vargas, this one, this block is going to really be on your about your home turf in Illinois. You've written that it is time for the Justice Department Civil Rights Division to investigate the Illinois House Speaker, Chris Welch and the and the Democratic leadership and that Welch should resign. Lay out for people what's going on in Illinois. I'm sure most people who are not inside the state don't actually understand all the details. Well, it's a remarkable story.

[00:52:24] And what we've learned is that beginning in 2023, a female staffer went to the Speaker's office and outlined in great detail allegations of sexual harassment by her employer, which was a Democrat state representative, Harry Benton. But we later learned that the Speaker's office waited three months before they interviewed State Rep. Benton. And after that thorough interview, no action was taken.

[00:52:53] He kept his committee assignments, was still getting paid bonuses, wasn't stripped from the caucus and was able to continue in his job, despite knowing all of these very serious sexual assault allegations, sexual harassment allegations. Then in 2026, just recently, the additional female females came forward and said, listen, Democrat State Representative Harry Benton is sexually harassing me.

[00:53:18] And it was at that point that the House Speaker and his leadership team were forced to finally take action. And so what I've been calling for, this is a violation of Title VII, civil rights, hostile work environment. The Speaker of the House and the Democrat caucus who run Springfield with a super, super majority, they have a legal obligation. Jenny, this would have never have happened in a private sector.

[00:53:43] Could you imagine a Fortune 500 or a Fortune 100 company that knew that a manager was sexually harassing employees and they left them alone? They continue to give them bonuses. They promoted them. This never would happen in the private sector. Why should government be held to a different and much, much lower standard? And so the buck stops with him.

[00:54:00] And lastly, what's very interesting is this controversy surrounding the state capitol is now bringing up old stories of sexual harassment and abuse allegations against Chris Welch before he was speaker. Now, he was never charged. And those were all dropped. But female Democrat state reps at the time, before he became speaker, said, we'd like to see this report. He promised that this report would be made public. When he became speaker, that report was squashed.

[00:54:27] And so now at the same time, people are demanding, let's see this earlier report about these allegations against you. He was cleared at the time, but they want to see that as well. So this has got pitting Democrats against Democrats. The governor, Pritzker, who thinks he's got presidential ambitions, he's been silent on this. But the special inspector general is going to release a report here very, very soon detailing all of the allegations in great detail of what happened. And I don't think it's going to be a very good look for the speaker or the Democrat leadership here in Illinois.

[00:54:57] No, it doesn't sound like it at all. And you've documented that the Illinois politicians are stacking salaries and benefits and pensions all on taxpayer dimes. The taxpayer dime. Explain that also. It just Illinois sounds so corrupt and so wasteful and disrespectful of taxpayer dollars. Well, it's why this is the most, I would argue, the most corrupt state in the country, because legislators are allowed to maintain.

[00:55:27] It's a part time job. They're allowed to maintain full time positions. They're only in session about 50 days a year. Yet they're still paid around one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year. They get their special legislative one letter or two letter license plates. So a lot of these legislators, most of them have full time jobs. They're lobbyists, government affairs advisors. Same thing with they run tax firms. Same thing with Chicago aldermen. They can run full time jobs in addition to being a Chicago alderman.

[00:55:52] But what we learned with Harry Benton after he was resigned, was forced out of the Democratic caucus. Not only was he making roughly around one hundred twenty thousand dollars a year for a part time legislator position to be in session only 50 days a year. He's also simultaneously a roads commissioner in his local community making seventy thousand dollars a year. He still has refused to resign from that position.

[00:56:14] But what this uncovered and and revealed is that you've got many government employees that are collecting pensions and multiple state government salaries at the exact same time. And so it's shocking to taxpayers. It's why we've got a huge pension problem. But it's remarkable that you can collect a pension and and still work in local government position and serve as a state representative and get two government salaries simultaneously while also collecting a pension.

[00:56:43] The legislation was written in order to protect and make sure that those that are in positions of power can get as much money as they possibly can. I'm collecting all of these salaries all at the taxpayers, while at the same time, while they're getting richer and richer, the taxpayers are getting poorer and poorer because we are the highest tax nation in the state. Illinoisans pay fifty three percent more in taxes than any other resident in the country. Wow. That is just that is crazy.

[00:57:11] And it's one thing if you are a part time legislator, you get paid. Most states don't pay as well as Illinois and you have some other job, especially if it's in the private sector. But to do the stacking like you're talking about it, it it does. It is not a good look for politicians. Robert, you used to live in Illinois and you've lived in other states since then.

[00:57:35] From where you sit now, what does Illinois actually need to do to dig out of this mess that they they are creating for themselves and for the citizens of Illinois? To echo the great Mark Vargas, all the work over the years that we've done in the Prairie State. It's exactly that. It's a pension crisis with this stacking. It's organized crime. They learn best from the mob, I think, in Chicago all those years ago. But it is bipartisan, but mostly from that Chicago Democrat machine.

[00:58:04] And dating back to Mark, I remember that awful license for bribe scandal that ultimately took down the not the last Republican governor, Bruce Rauner, but prior to that, George Ryan, after he had served as secretary of state. So that was such a crisis and a scandal at the time, killing these pastors, children in this fiery, horrible crash. And now it's rampant throughout the country with illegal aliens.

[00:58:30] I know Secretary Duffy working hard on that to solve that crisis from the Biden administration. But look at this stat dating back to those mid 90s when that horrible license for bribes happened. Twenty six electoral votes for the Prairie State of Illinois. It's now down to 19. Millions and millions of people have left the state of Illinois really over the course of nearly 30 years of this process,

[00:58:58] because how do you fund these pension liabilities? It's through property taxes. And property tax reform really has not been addressed in the state of Illinois. So when you water it down, it's really the pension crisis mixed with property taxes. But to Mark's point, the highest percentage to what they're bringing in. So it's almost impossible to live, work and raise a family at least the way you want to in Illinois.

[00:59:24] OK, one quick question for each of you before I let you go. Mark, do you think that Illinois is fixable from the inside or is it going to take Washington? It's going to take the Washington Washington. And I've been calling on the FBI and the DOJ to investigate the governor and the Democrats for waste, fraud and abuse. This is one party rule. What I explained to the president in person at Mar-a-Lago in early February is what we're seeing and what's been uncovered in Minnesota and California. You ain't seen nothing yet.

[00:59:54] I've talked to Nick Shirley several times about this. He was in Illinois just recently giving a speech. The corruption, the stealing of money, the waste, fraud and abuse. We're only going to fix this state. We're only going to make it better once we target the corruption that's been happening under this under the radar. So it's fixable. But the number one solution is to go after waste, fraud and abuse. Start putting people away. And Robert, what do you think? Yes, I would agree with Mark. Federal intervention.

[01:00:22] And remember, as we had that horrible display yesterday by Dr. Fauci, Governor J.B. Pritzker was one of the worst when it came to came to covid hypocrisy with his different zones. We highlighted this last week, Jenny Beth, when it came to the population. When you look at the collar counties, including Cook County, Cook County by itself, 40 percent of the population of Illinois and then 80 percent with Cook and the collar county.

[01:00:49] So six out of 102 have 80 percent of the population. Yet Governor J.B. Pritzker had the exact same covid lockdown mandates for the entire state. Some counties had a total of eleven hundred people or less who had the same or face the same lockdowns as the city of Chicago. Meanwhile, he was able to go to his horse farm over the border north in Wisconsin to enjoy some equestrian fun.

[01:01:16] And then his family and the governor himself going down to Florida where they have a home to enjoy the outdoors when everyone else was locked out of their churches, their gyms, their businesses and really lost their way of life as a result of government mandates. Yeah, just those mandates were absolutely horrible. Guys, thank you so much for being on today. I want everyone to go follow your work, Mark, at Illinois Review.

[01:01:44] And where can people find you on social media? They can find me at X at Mark A Vargas, Illinois Review dot com and on my Newsmax column called the Potomac Perspective. Thank you so much for joining me, Mark. And thank you, as always, Robert. Thank you. All right. And my team managed to find some of those Lego photos I was talking about from the White House Christmas party last year. Let me see if we can bring one of those up.

[01:02:12] That is a Lego portrait of George Washington. And the the wreath above it is also Lego. And then there is Donald J. Trump, a Lego. It's just so amazing. I love that. And I sent it to both of my kids and my son, who is 23. Both of my children are older now. They're both 23. But they loved it. And my son really loved it. All right. Before I close, a few more things.

[01:02:40] The first thing, of course, is our call to action one last time. The Sea of America Act needs 50 senators to get it passed through reconciliation. And we need the Senate to stay in session and keep working on it without going home. So make those phone calls to the Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121. And tell both of your senators to stay in session and get the Save America Act passed before going on recess.

[01:03:10] For more details and more information, go to pass the save America act dot com. Only American citizens should decide American elections. And if today hit home with you, be sure to watch our recent conversation on the Save America Act showdown and the Jack Smith accountability fight. Robert was with me for that one as well. Before I close, I want to tell you why this COVID lockdown and mandate situation was just so personal to me.

[01:03:39] And why yesterday's hearings with Fauci just really, really upset me. As I said at the beginning of the show, six years ago, Tea Party Patriots and I organized doctors. Tea Party Patriots Action and I organized doctors who were working to reduce fear and to give hope that people could survive COVID so that we could get back to being a free society instead of a fearful lockdown one that we saw every single day.

[01:04:07] One story has stayed with me ever since almost the very beginning. And it's the reason that I just can't let this stuff go. A critical care doctor in a Midwestern state signed one of our letters to the White House in 2020. And he sent this to me on May 17th, 2020, just eight weeks into the lockdowns. He wrote, and I quote,

[01:04:31] He had a healthy 48-year-old man with three young children die of a necrotizing soft tissue infection and sepsis. He had a cut on his hand one week prior to presentation. He did not seek health care as the infection worsened because of the mandated physician office closures. By the time he presented to the ICU, it was too late. He died within 12 hours of admission.

[01:04:57] I will never forget the look on his significant other's face when I told her of his death. She just kept sobbing. He just cut his hand. He just had a little cut on his hand. I don't understand. I don't understand. This isn't real. His death was completely and sadly preventable. That's what the doctor said in 2020. That man would have been 54 years old today.

[01:05:21] Instead, three children grew up without their father because a mandate closed the doctor's office door that he needed to be able to walk through. And that is just one of countless other stories. People could not hold their father's or mother's hands as their parent took their last breath. Funerals were forbidden. A friend of mine was hospitalized with COVID in 2022, more than two years into all of this.

[01:05:50] They left her food on the floor in the hallway outside of her hospital door, the way you would treat a prisoner in solitary confinement. The nurses were completely covered up in masks and face shields and protective gear and would not touch the patient at all. Stayed at least six feet away from the patient. Two years into it, she was on oxygen and on mandatory bed rest.

[01:06:18] And yet she had to get out of her bed, push the oxygen tank to the door to get every single meal so she could get sustenance for her body while she was in the hospital. Another 24-year-old friend was ignored and her vital signs started dropping while she was in isolation at a hospital until her mother fought her way into care for her daughter. The mother had to call elected official out of elected official, out of elected official.

[01:06:48] And one state senator finally called the hospital administrator on the mom's behalf. And the mom was able to get inside the hospital. Once the mom took over, she was able to help get her daughter out of the hospital. A 24-year-old, it's not like it's a little child, it was a 24-year-old young lady.

[01:07:06] And as soon as she was out of the hospital, she started recovering much faster than what was happening inside of isolation at the hospital where nurses and doctors completely ignored her. Gyms, schools, houses of worship, and countless businesses were forced to close. Jobs were lost. Lives were changed forever.

[01:07:27] People were unable to say goodbye to elderly and sick family members who wound up dying completely alone. Not to mention the mayors and governors who acted like communist, tyrannical dictators trying to control every single aspect of their citizens' lives. Remember the placement of senior citizens in specific nursing homes by governors and mayors like Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan?

[01:07:56] Again, I guess these are all actually governors, but Andrew Cuomo of New York, Phil Murphy, New Jersey, J.P. Pritzker of Illinois, Gavin Newsom of California. And remember, Gavin Newsom attended a friend's birthday party at the French Laundry in Napa Valley while he forced every Californian to stay at home and not go out.

[01:08:18] And then, of course, there was Senator Dianne Feinstein who did not follow the alleged science and the mandates about masks. Let's watch this clip of Dianne Feinstein. Thank you. Everyone else had to wear that mask, but no, not Senator Feinstein.

[01:08:47] She did not have to wear the mask at all. And honestly, don't really blame her. I would not have wanted to wear the mask, but then I never would have mandated it and told everyone they must do it. If they chose to, fine, but I never would have forced it and infringed on liberty the way that so many did in this country.

[01:09:07] This weekend, we finally saw inside of Dr. Anthony Fauci's mind a man who shut down the nation and fretted over fame, who pushed shots on millions, suffered side effects himself from those very shots, and yet never disclosed that to the American people. Yesterday, after he spoke and gave his opening statement, he sat before Congress and pled the Fifth Amendment.

[01:09:32] He reminded me so much of Lois Lerner after she targeted Tea Party groups. And honestly, it just made me sick. History will judge him not only for what he said in public during the lockdowns and mandates from 2020 to 2025, but for what he wrote in private, for the questions he refused to answer, for shunning his fellow Americans, and for the liberty our country lost because of his mandates.

[01:10:00] I pray we learn from these mistakes and that no future generation ever endures a response like we had to live through. I'm Jenny Beth Martin, and this is The Jenny Best Show. If you enjoyed today's conversation, go ahead and hit like and subscribe. It really helps us reach more people who care about liberty and the Constitution. You can find this and other episodes at JennyBestShow.com, as well as Facebook, YouTube, Rumble, Instagram, X, and your favorite podcast platform.

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