Guests
Sonja Shaw is the Chino Valley Unified school board president and a candidate for California Superintendent of Public Instruction who advanced from the statewide primary this week.
Father Frank Pavone is the National Director of Priests for Life and a longtime pro-life leader who served at the Vatican under Pope John Paul II.
Justine Brooke Murray is a correspondent with the Media Research Center and host of Woke of the Week, covering legacy-media bias from Washington, D.C.
Key Topics
- The 43,000-vote swing in the Los Angeles mayor’s race and what it reveals about California vote counting
- Ballot harvesting, mail-ballot rules, and the case for proof-of-citizenship voter ID
- US Attorney Bill Essayli on coming election-fraud charges in California
- The $9 billion Minnesota Medicaid fraud and the moral stakes of government waste
- Election integrity as a faith issue and Catholic teaching on immigration
- The Southern Poverty Law Center, the Jim Jordan hearing, and media bias
- The SAVE America Act, the Secure America Act, and the FISA reauthorization deadline
Timestamps
00:00 — Cold open: seven days of ballot counting flips the Los Angeles mayor’s race
02:48 — The week’s fight: SAVE America Act, Secure America Act, and the FISA deadline
03:51 — Today’s guests
04:30 — Sonja Shaw on California’s vote flip and ballot harvesting
08:39 — DOJ civil-rights review of California school districts
13:03 — US Attorney Bill Essayli on coming election-fraud charges
17:40 — Where to find Sonja Shaw’s campaign
19:00 — Father Frank Pavone on faith, perseverance, and staying engaged
21:18 — The $9 billion Minnesota Medicaid fraud and the moral stakes
22:43 — Tea Party Patriots Action poll: 82.9% want permanent fraud detection
24:53 — Election integrity as a faith issue and Catholic teaching on immigration
30:07 — The SPLC hearing, Jim Jordan, and the war on faith and family
37:10 — Justine Brooke Murray on media bias and the California vote count
41:09 — How the Southern Poverty Law Center became a media weapon
46:29 — Scott Pelley, CBS, and legacy-media narcissism
49:35 — One action conservatives can take this week
51:37 — Closing: call Congress on the SAVE America Act
53:32 — Moms for Liberty and the Legacy of Liberty Award aboard the USS Midway
Links Mentioned
jennybethshow.com | teapartypatriots.org | passthesaveamericaact.com | shaw4ca.com | newsbusters.org | Capitol switchboard (202) 224-3121
[00:00:14] Welcome to the Jenny Beth Show. Seven days, that's all it took. Seven days of mail ballot counting to erase a conservative frontrunner and hand the Los Angeles mayor's race over to the progressive machine. I'm Robert McNeely in for Jenny Beth Martin. Welcome to the Jenny Beth Show with voters going to their primary polls in Maine, Nevada, North Carolina, and North Dakota and South Carolina today. You see why California election integrity or lack thereof
[00:00:44] continues to be on the minds of citizens right, left, and center. Now you can see that stat right now on your screen. Spencer Pratt was in second place just a week ago on election night. Then came the ballot drops June 5th, June 6th, June 7th, and June 8th, and that lead evaporated. Approximately 43,000 votes shifted from Pratt over toward Nithya Rahman, the progressive challenger across excessive mail ballot drops. That is not a normal vote.
[00:01:14] That's a pattern. That's a pattern. That's a pattern. That's a pattern. That's a pattern. That's a pattern. That's a pattern. And it's not just the mayor's race. Across the state, California's conservative movement is fighting on every front, the schools, the courts, and now in federal investigations. U.S. Attorney Bill Essily told Glenn Beck this week that federal charges, election fraud charges, will soon be brought against people in California. Now North Korea offering election monitor. Senator Mike Lee says it's a joke, but the problem is it's not really funny.
[00:01:42] Not when you understand what's happening in California schools, what federal prosecutors are now saying and what the conservative candidates are heading up against in the general elections. But last night, President Trump attending the NBA Finals Game 3, a first for a sitting president at Madison Square Garden in his hometown of New York City. A slew of celebrities were courtside for the first finals game at the Garden in nearly 27 years, including never let a good crisis go to waste.
[00:02:12] Rahm Emanuel and fun fact about those finals in 1999, also featuring the Knicks and the Spurs as we are witnessing today. Here's a clip of the patriotic energy in action last night as we approach America's 250th birthday. Now here at home, the first fight this week is on two tracks.
[00:02:40] Track one being that of immigration and election integrity in the House. Voting this week on the Secure America Act, a 70 billion border enforcement funding bill that passed the Senate 52 to 47 last Friday. We want that bill passed and we want the Save America Act proof of citizenship to vote attached to everything that moves, including the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which Congress calls FISA, Section 702. And that provision expires on Friday. Three days.
[00:03:09] The clock is ticking. So here is what we are asking you to do right now. And we'll ask you again at the end of the show. Call your congressman. Call your senators. Tell them to attach the Save America Act to every single bill that moves, including FISA. Now the number on your screen, 202-224-2131 or go to passthesaveamericaact.com. Again, that's 202-224-2131 or go to passthesaveamericaact.com.
[00:03:39] And again, I'm sorry, that is 202-224-3121 to get that number across to your congressmen and senators immediately. Passthesaveamericaact.com. Three incredible guests today. Sonia Shaw, a candidate for California State Superintendent of Public Instruction. She just advanced from the primary election this week when Pratt was pushed out.
[00:04:02] Father Frank Pavone, a pro-life leader, talks to us about the moral dimensions of the $9 billion of Minnesota Medicaid fraud, that story, and why the election integrity is a faith issue. And Justine Brooke Murray from the Media Research Center joins us to track media bias on the Pratt result on FISA and how the left uses the Southern Poverty Law Center as a weapon against conservative organizations. Let's dive in.
[00:04:27] Sonia Shaw, she's with us, candidate for California State Superintendent of Public Instruction and a school board president. Sonia, welcome and congratulations on the primary victory. You're advancing to the general election after a statewide California primary. Many people have hopes in your race. And that exact same week, though, Spencer Pratt getting eliminated from the L.A. mayor's race after leading Raman on Tuesday night last week on election night.
[00:04:53] So from the inside of this, what's actually happening in California elections right now? Yeah, no, it was such a big, devastating hit for all of us families here, especially because we know that Spencer has the majority of people. Of course, all of our numbers on election night were, I think I was leading by 10 points. And then we slowly see seeing it chip away. I mean, California allows people to turn about in a ballot after after the election day,
[00:05:23] as long as they hand write the date on their envelope. I mean, can it get any more crazy and loony tune over here in California? We also know U.S. Attorney Bill Aselli. He's trying really hard to make sure that, you know, there is a accurate investigation. But California is stopping it, of course. And if you have nothing to hide, then why hide the voter rolls? Right. But again, they can use their I mean, I don't know if you've seen you guys guys have seen it.
[00:05:52] They can use their their gym membership. They can also use their, you know, their ID card, medical ID card. And we know in California that we give, you know, illegals health insurance. So it doesn't need a state ID to show that you're a resident here. This is why we keep screaming that we need a voter ID on the ballots in November. And thankfully, we have it.
[00:06:14] We just need people to show up and vote it in because we the people are trying to take over that and make sure we bring back integrity to our elections. It sounds far fetched to so many people, but you can literally click on there and say, I don't have a Social Security number. I do not have a driver's license, although they allegedly claim that they'll ask for that when you first vote in California. Rather ridiculous. But we have a ballot timeline up on the screen. Election night, June 2nd. Pratt is in second place. As those days pass, Pratt drops to third.
[00:06:44] A swing of roughly 43,000 votes over successive ballot drops. Sonia, you've lived through a primary in this environment. Do those numbers surprise you at all? And does ballot harvesting continue to pose a concern for election integrity? Obviously, ballot harvesting is a huge thing. I think it should be illegal, but we need to beat them at their own game. And I keep telling people, once you beat them at their own game, when we start collecting the ballots, they will make it illegal. That's the only way California ever responds.
[00:07:13] For example, look at the state race that I am running in for state superintendent. Because we have a chance to win it, the legislators and our governor now have a bill on the table to take the authority away from this. So I keep telling people, look, you just need to beat them at their own game. It is very, very eye-opening, I think, to just the normal day-to-day voter. But again, we need to get that passed in November. Carl DeMaio, Assemblyman Carl DeMaio, and our senator, Tony Strickland, had worked hard on collecting the signatures.
[00:07:43] Look at my race. My race is nonpartisan, so it's a little bit more tricky, right? And we had over 1.5 million and counting every single day. But little by little, they're chipping away. But we made it too big to rig. Look, when it comes to education and the nonpartisancy, it worked in our favors. The unions are the ones that are ballot harvesting. And that's what we're seeing right now. The union's efforts at harvesting those ballots and turning them in on the day of Election Day.
[00:08:11] And obviously, they can turn them in the day after and the day after and the day after as long as they handwrite the date in there. So this is definitely a union which I call special interest groups that have taken over our elections here in California. And every voter needs to wake up and realize how important their vote is and make it too big to rig in November so we can finally, as voters, get it on to our, you know, get it in and make sure election integrity is here in California as much as we can.
[00:08:38] Absolutely. The Department of Justice also announcing this week it's opening a civil rights compliance review of four California public school districts. The school board president and candidate now for state superintendent. What does that tell you about where California's education establishment has gone, especially with the unions? Yeah, so we are at the bottom. Again, we got an F. We saw the results even come out yesterday.
[00:09:01] We've been screaming from the rooftops that this gender ideology, which they are being investigated for and keeping secrets from parents, has been happening, especially in these larger districts like San Diego Unified. Although they weren't named on there, I'm telling you right now, these are the districts alongside San Francisco Unified and the rest of them that are hiding secrets at a larger scale. Us parents have done the record request. We see how many secrets are being kept from parents.
[00:09:26] We have been sued by our governor in Chino Valley just for making sure that we said we're not keeping secrets from parents. Look, more than half cannot read at grade level. You keep going down and you have the same people that just pass the baton to those that want these positions in power because they carry on this mission to destroy this generation's minds. We see it. 47% of kids can read at grade level. 37% can do math.
[00:09:54] And we have our UC systems in California, which are the top in the nation. Generally speaking, you have the professors now signing on and saying, help. These California kids are not ready. We're needing remedial classes just to get them up to par. This is where I have been on the front lines of trying to fight for California. Chino has been leading the way. Look, Stanford did research on districts all across the nation.
[00:10:22] And because we have stood and said, no, we're going to focus on reading, writing, math, civics, and pathways to success after high school. Our test results, even in California, are going in the right direction. And Stanford even identified us as a recovery model. But it's not easy here in California. These people are relentless. They put you on watch lists. They threaten your life. Look at my family's lives have been threatened multiple times. So, I mean, it's worth the fight because this generation is worth for us fighting.
[00:10:51] But it is a fight. And we need more people to realize how important their yes every single day, I say to God, is in this bigger fight to fight the good fight. Well, that's why your campaign is so impressive to me, Sonia, because you're taking on it's truly a David versus Goliath. But you have been fighting locally on school board for years. And we know why. Because Attorney General Rob Bonta in California sued you in the California Teachers Association spending big bucks, big funds against you.
[00:11:18] What can the Tea Party Patriots action audience watching today from other states around the country take away from all this, what California is doing to its conservative parents and its residents? Yeah. More importantly, it's what they're doing to our children. They are destroying their minds. And you see it because these children are growing up into young adults holding signs saying death to America. Being a patriot is somehow bad now. But I need all hands on deck. Look, this is a national push.
[00:11:45] And I keep telling people this is not just a California thing. The unions are a national push. In this race alone, they poured in over $6 million. Now they're asking for national help from the national teachers unions to run against me, a mother. A mother who just stepped up and said, no, we're not going to do this on our watch. These are our children. You don't own our children. So what I'm asking for, to be truly honest, is the nation to pay attention. The nation to contribute to those of us fighting the good fight.
[00:12:15] Because these nonpartisan seats, I mean, I say nonpartisan very lightly because they are very partisan, are literally a national agenda. And if people don't realize that and they say and they write off California, I am telling you right now, and we've spoke about this before, these nonpartisan seats have already been hijacked. Your city councils and your state superintendents, if you have them.
[00:12:40] But your school boards have already been hijacked by this national agenda, even in the reddest and conservative of states. Please, please, we need all hands on deck like they're asking to pay attention because we're fighting a national agenda that's trying to poison our generation's minds. Education has become a national security issue. There's no question about that. And as you mentioned earlier, U.S. Attorney Bill Esseli reportedly told Glenn Beck that federal election fraud charges will soon be brought in California.
[00:13:09] In fact, we have that clip for our viewers. You said you expect people to be charged. Can you say with what? And you feel confident enough you have enough evidence? I will just say it will be election fraud charges in the next. I hate to put timelines on things, but one or two months, I believe we need we need the some of these results to be certified so we can prove some of the allegations. But we will be charging some people.
[00:13:38] I can't get in too much. And mostly, Glenn, I mean, it's not just DOJ rules, but we also want to protect innocent people. If we get something wrong, we don't want someone to be tainted with the stain of an investigation until we're able to prove that in court. So I can't get into too much. But just know that at this point right now, we're wide open for investigations. If anyone knows anything, direct evidence. I know people have theories and they have ideas.
[00:14:06] And what we need right now are witnesses. If you've witnessed anything, if someone voted in your name and you found out someone voted for you, we want to know about that. If you saw someone collecting ballots in a suspicious way or doing something odd with ballots, we want to know about that. Those are the kind of things we need direct evidence of right now so we can launch into deeper investigations. Sonia, federal charges do come.
[00:14:34] What happens next to the conservative effort to actually win California and what does it mean for your race in November? Yeah. So first off, Bill is a beacon of hope and shining the light on all the darkness here in California. We need more Bill Asselli's. But I mean, the great thing is they do have people already, you know, saying that they're guilty of collecting ballots and paying people here in California this last election cycle. We know that there's fraud. It's just at what scale?
[00:15:02] Again, I cannot stress enough for people. It doesn't matter the party line to get out and vote for, you know, our election integrity, making sure in November you vote for it. There was a lot of effort to get it on the ballot because we as the people spoke up and said we want election integrity put back so we can gain the confidence of voters to actually pay attention to these so important, and so necessary seats that we're trying to fight to make sure that the right people are in California.
[00:15:31] The right people that are the voice of the majority of California. For me, we need to make it too big to rig. We need every parent. It doesn't even matter the party line. Again, this is a nonpartisan seat, even though we know they make it very partisan. We need them to realize that your child's future is online. You want the same people with the same agenda, with the same results of failure, then you have, you know, my opponent, Barrera. Or if you want the change, which I have at the blueprint, it's not like I'm just talking the talk.
[00:16:00] I am a proven fighter. Anybody can Google my name and see that I have never backed down from a fight of protecting the kids. Then you have my name. And both of us are very, very, very clear that there's a contrast between both of us. He wants CRT. He wants ethnic studies. He wants boys and girls restrooms. He wants education focused on ideologies. And I have a blueprint for the opposite, and we're getting the results here in Chino that I want to take statewide.
[00:16:24] I just need everybody to pay attention and fill in that little bubble come November or October when the ballots drop and make sure that parents have a voice and a seat at the table. I am excited for this opportunity. I know we can do it. We just need all hands on deck. You are a breath of fresh air. And for everyone watching outside of California, what is the one action someone could take this week that actually moves the needle on election integrity not only in California but across the country? Yes.
[00:16:52] So pay attention to your local races. Make sure you get people to actually run for these. Stop handing our kids on a silver platter and volunteer. Volunteer. We need volunteers at our voter of registers. Look, we can sit here and complain or we can be doers. I'm a doer, so I always tell God, send me where you want me. We need everybody to pay attention and not just sit back and watch California and the nation be destroyed by those that have special interests and that agenda that we do not want here in the most beautiful nation.
[00:17:22] We're coming up on our 250th anniversary of the most beautiful nation, and we need to keep that, the most beautiful nation, the United States of America. And we need to make sure this generation understands the blood and the loss that was fought for our protections to have these constitutional rights that we're fighting so desperately for. And where can we find your campaign before we bid you adieu on this wonderful Tuesday? Absolutely. Shaw4ca.com. It'll have all the links to all my social medias. Pay attention.
[00:17:51] I also have a donate link, please, even if it's $10. It got us through the first part, and now we're trying to raise enough money to fight the good fight because we know they're coming in with multi-millions. They already spent $6 million and counting.
[00:18:03] Thank you so much.
[00:19:00] Welcome back to The Jenny Beth Show. I'm Robert McNeely, and we are joined by Father Frank Pavone. Father Frank, welcome. California is just producing a primary where two progressives will face each other in the November-May oral runoff. In the same week, the federal government opening up a civil rights investigation into California public schools. From the perspective of the faith community, with countless cities named after heroic saints in California,
[00:19:25] what can they do next to defend the families who actually built it up? Well, first of all, the participation in the process is key. You know, California voters might be subject, especially with the chaos and the circus that we're seeing now, which, of course, was very predictable, to say, well, you know, why should I vote in the first place?
[00:19:45] And that's as big a danger as the cheating and the fraud that take place and the wickedness of those who are in power in different offices. Stay engaged. This is what the faith tells us. You know, we read from the beginning to the end of Scripture about perseverance under challenge, persecution, and obstacles. It's all about holding fast to the faith, contending for the faith, staying the course.
[00:20:13] I mean, whether it's the parables or the exhortations of St. Paul or the lessons in the book of Revelation, if we can take that as Americans and apply it to our participation in the political process and elections, that's key. Especially, again, in California, what we're seeing going on, stay the course, stay involved. Because when we vote, it's not only a matter of the outcome.
[00:20:40] It's a matter of God looking at us and saying, you know, I inspired you and I gave you the opportunity to do your part. Did you do so? And did you do so faithfully? And you have shown that, Father, on timeless occasions as the National Director of Priests for Life. You think about Paul's life. You think about being in prison as Luke is writing the gospel and the two of them together. It's almost as if an ancient Obi-Wan Kenobi and Luke Skywalker together as they are persevering,
[00:21:07] as that joy is pouring through them, mind you, in very dire conditions over the Roman Empire, overlooking them, having them in that prison. And I can only imagine. So I'm reminded of that as I read through my Bible. But the House Oversight Committee dropping a major report this week, $9 billion in Medicaid fraud in Minnesota. Governor Tim Walz, Attorney General Keith Ellison, both knew for years they did nothing.
[00:21:33] And Vice President Vance is now referring the matter to the Department of Justice in their fraud division. What does it say about the moral dimension of government waste and fraud when the people responsible for protecting the vulnerable are the ones who let it happen? Well, can you imagine? I mean, this guy Walz was on the ticket for the Vice President of the United States. When you talk about contrast, you know, I think the election cycle we're in right now is more than ever before about contrast.
[00:22:02] Elections always are. But you see this action being taken now involving someone who was on the VP ticket, and you contrast that with the actual VP we have now leading the charge against the fraud. I mean, I don't know that there can be a more vivid contrast.
[00:22:20] And I think that's cause for us both for alarm is like what kind of people are being elected on the other side of the aisle and a cause for rejoicing that, wow, we sure did dodge a bullet in 2024. And we're seeing, you know, I think it's a lesson. We're seeing so many good things happen here. You know, there's a group of people out there that claim to be on our side, and it's like, oh, nothing is happening. Nothing's good enough. No, it is happening. And we got to continue to fan those flames.
[00:22:50] Yes, sir. The latest Tea Party Patriots Action Survey, in fact, shows 82.9% of Americans say Congress should require a permanent fraud detection system. Now, that's the highest number we've seen across six polls specifically that we commissioned on this very question. You can see that number right there on your screen. And, Father Frank, in your travels, what are people of faith actually telling you about what government waste is doing to their specific communities?
[00:23:20] Well, first of all, they're offended by it morally. And they say, look, we work hard for our money. We expect the government to do its job not to waste our money. And they're offended by it morally. And, of course, people are and have been for some years now, particularly under the Biden years, but still with the concerns with prices and everything, that adds insult to injury.
[00:23:44] But I think there's also in the faith community a real sense of relief that these things are finally being exposed. Because, again, looking at our biblical lessons, you know, I think of St. Paul writing to the Ephesians, and he says, have nothing to do with the fruitless works of darkness, but rather expose them.
[00:24:04] And I think there's a sense of relief that, you know, I mean, once this stuff is exposed, you know, we've got a solid foundation there for establishing a permanent effort, explicit permanent effort against fraud. And it gives us all a platform to say, no, we're not going back to the days of hiding this stuff or ignoring this stuff. I think we've got a good, solid foundation for moving forward with these efforts.
[00:24:30] Yes, they always said to me in school, Father Frank, you're amongst polite company. Don't talk politics and religion. And now I find myself sitting in the hot seat, and it's an honor. I thank God every day for the opportunity. But there's a specific ask we have this week. We want that Save America Act, proof of citizenship to vote, attaching it to every bill that moves, including the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act reauthorization.
[00:24:53] So the House voting on this week, how do you talk to faith communities about election integrity as a faith issue, not just a political one? And can you also share the Catholic teaching on immigration? Because the mainstream media sometimes, you know, they get that wrong. Well, on the first part of your question, you know, and especially when I do clergy training and I say to the pastors, hey, do some voter registration, mobilize people, help them get to the polls, do get out the vote drives.
[00:25:22] I say to them, don't look at this as primarily a political activity, because, you know, a lot of the pastors feel like I wasn't trained to be a politician. No, I say, look at it as a pastoral activity. How? Because the Lord gives us the command to go into the world and change it, the Great Commission. Make disciples of all the nations. Teach them to carry out what I've commanded you. So how do we do that if we don't take part in the process, we don't vote?
[00:25:45] And how do we do that if we don't have secure elections that people can trust, and therefore that trust and that confidence leads them to a greater participation? In regard to the teaching on immigration, everyone is our brother and sister, everyone in the human family. Obviously, that's the starting point. But I heard one of the bishops one time say, and this was his personal expression, he says, well, you know, every encounter with an immigrant is an encounter with Christ.
[00:26:15] I said, well, you know, unless they're out to, you know, kill you or rape your daughters or your wife, I mean, some people are just intent on doing evil. And so the Catholic teaching on immigration, we see it in the catechism, is that a nation has the right and the responsibility to set conditions and limits on whom they can welcome into their country.
[00:26:38] And it further says in the catechism of the Catholic Church that those who want to enter that country have to respect and obey its laws, customs, and culture. So you can't make the first, if you make the first act upon entering a country a violation of its immigration law, you're not following Catholic teaching at all.
[00:27:00] And it's therefore also consistent with Catholic teaching to enforce those immigration laws, which as we know, Biden outright refused to do, and so many of the Democrats refused to do. But sometimes we see in the Catholic community, and of course we see it elsewhere, but I hear too many Catholics sort of saying, oh, well, my pastor or my bishop said that, you know, this stuff that ICE is doing isn't so great.
[00:27:27] You know, there's not a Catholic teaching about ICE. There's a Catholic teaching about immigration policy overall that, of course, recognizes the rightful place of enforcement. But then as far as specific ways that you're enforcing it, we have to give deference to those that we've elected to make those decisions and not try to say something against Catholic teaching when we see these deportations. No, the law is supposed to be enforced, and that's perfectly consistent with our teaching.
[00:27:56] And with Christ teaching as he's on Calvary, as he's discussing with Pontius Pilate, you learn so much in that moment. Not only natural law and Pontius asking that question, Pilate saying, what is truth? He truly did not know. But then also of Christ speaking back to him, what is Caesar is Caesar's. My kingdom is not of this world. And I recommend everyone to read the great writings of Archbishop Charles Chaput, Render Unto Caesar.
[00:28:26] It gives you a great outlook on how to direct and focus your life, especially in terms of politics and religion and how you serve your community. But what do you say to a pastor in California right now, Father Frank, watching this congregation shrink because families are leaving the state?
[00:28:42] Well, you know, maybe the pastors in California should consider saying to their flocks, listen, for the safety and well-being of yourself and your family and your children and the value of your education, maybe you should think about going to a different state. I'll minister to a smaller congregation, but, you know, because, you know, you hear a lot of people, of course, saying, you know, I'm going to stay.
[00:29:09] I know it's a deep blue state, but I'm going to stay here and I'm going to fight for change. And I'm among the first to say, yes, change is always possible. You know, California has been a, you know, it's been a pendulum and it's been red at times, it's gone blue, it goes back and forth. And maybe we're at a time when, you know, this is going to start to change back again. So I'm always in favor of working for change. But I think we've also come to a point where these blue cities and states are so poorly managed.
[00:29:39] I mean, I think it's worse than incompetence. I think sometimes it's just outright deliberate desire to destroy America that we do have to think about the safety of our family, not just physically, but morally, spiritually, educationally. And, you know, we're seeing people come to that conclusion, aren't we, as they flee these blue states and come to where I live here in Florida or to Texas or other better places. Oh, it's a wonderful place to be in the southeast.
[00:30:08] No question about that. And Father Frank, are you watching closely at all today? The SPLC hearings led by Chairman Jim Jordan of the Buckeye State of Ohio, because this organization is alleged to have accused Catholic parishioners of being radical terrorists and having them on a watch list.
[00:30:27] And I can't think of anything worse than violating their First Amendment rights, not only to free them of speech, but also to peacefully protest outside of abortion clinics and also to speak up at their school board meetings where their children are in some cases being indoctrinated by the far left. You know, yes, as a matter of fact, one of our board members, whom our audience knows, Dr. Alveda King, is one of those testifying today at these hearings.
[00:30:55] You know why, you know, the left is so afraid of like traditional Catholics or parents at school board meetings? It's not because they care anything about liturgy or even Catholic doctrine. Here's what they're afraid of. And you mentioned it by quoting my—he's been a friend over the years, Archbishop Chaput.
[00:31:15] They're afraid of the fact that these believers are actually taking their faith into the public square, into the voting booth, where it belongs, into the halls of the legislatures. That's what they're afraid of. It just so happens that the ones who are doing that are, you know, it correlates pretty well with when you look at folks that attend the Latin Mass or more traditional tend also to be more intent on bringing the faith into public life.
[00:31:43] But that's what the left is really afraid of, because any strengthening of faith and any strengthening of family is the opposite of what? It's the opposite of concentration of power in the state. And that's what these radical leftists are all after. They're only about power. They're not about conviction, belief, or anything like that. They're about power. And the two biggest obstacles to them concentrating power are the church and the family. Truly the antithesis of communist thought. And we saw that in the 20th century.
[00:32:13] Now we're seeing history rhyme itself in the 21st century. And I'm reminded of your great friend as well, St. John Paul II, Carol Wajota of the great Polish community. And we're really strengthened by their partnership and their friendship as they've endured so much over the course of the last 100 or so years. Yes, they certainly have. I was privileged to serve over at the Vatican for a few years under John Paul II.
[00:32:39] It was in what was essentially the pro-life office for the Catholic Church. And my goodness, what an unforgettable leader, world leader, helping to bring down communism and working so closely with President Reagan and Margaret Thatcher at the time. That was a powerful trio. You know, and we see, you know, that's the way for the church to be engaged, you know, to take those principles of the gospel and just of basic morality and civilization.
[00:33:08] And to make them work by doing what? By empowering the people. When John Paul was there on his visit to Poland after becoming pope, you know, Holy Spirit, you know, renew the face of the earth. And he charged up the crowd because he was saying, this earth, namely this ground you're standing on, this nation, Holy Spirit, come and renew it. And what he was doing is what we were saying before. The political activity is also pastoral activity.
[00:33:37] Give the people the confidence and strength they need to change the world for the better. Otherwise, Rob, you know what happens? Our prayer and our preaching just become wishful thinking. If people are not actively engaged, what are we doing in church when we're just thinking about a better world? You know, we can't just be wishful thinking. You know, God, I always say when you pray, when you finish praying, you shouldn't feel like you've done your duty. You should feel like you've been given your duty. You shouldn't feel rested.
[00:34:07] You should feel restless because prayer is encounter with God. And God is the source of all good activity, including good political and legislative activity. God is a God of freedom. And that's why engagement, more than ever before, is very consistent with our faith. And celebrating Corpus Christi, I was reminded, Father, that be not afraid as I went to an evening mass, getting off of the plane after the airport.
[00:34:33] And the deacon proudly proclaimed as we left mass to go and spread the gospel. It was a wonderful way to end mass. And as we conclude our time with you today, you've been such a dear friend to us here at the Jenny Beth Show. And to countless Americans, may you please throw down a quick prayer for our nation as a whole, as we are entering America 250 years and our birthday coming up in July. Yes, thank you. Father, we thank you and we praise you.
[00:35:02] Your word says where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. And there is no nation, there is no system of government that has survived so long and incarnated so well. The very meaning of freedom and the safeguards to protect it. And yet we know, Lord, that's a responsibility, a sacred one that we have to preserve it and hand it on to our children. Bless us on this 250th birthday of our nation and anniversary of that great declaration of independence,
[00:35:27] that we might understand it better, that we may secure the rights of which it speaks, starting with the right to life, and that we may have the joy, the honor of living through this moment in history. May it be a time of inspiration and renewal and unity in your holy name. And through Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. Amen. Father Frank Pavone, National Director, Priest for Life. Come back and see us soon. Thank you for joining us on the Jenny Beth Show. My pleasure. God bless.
[00:36:01] And we will go now to our quick break. Stick with us here on the Jenny Beth Show.
[00:36:06] Welcome back to the Jenny Beth Show.
[00:37:11] I'm Robert McNeely. As we bring in Justine Brooke Murray from the Media Research Center, a great friend of the show. And Justine, you were just on Fox Across America talking to voters about voter ID, what the left calls discrimination. Of course, we call it common sense on the right side of history. And now, Spencer Pratt just watched 43,000 votes evaporate over seven days of mail ballot counting in Los Angeles.
[00:37:39] How's the mainstream media covering all this, and how should conservatives push back? Rob, it's always good to see you. But, of course, immediately, CNN just posted an article saying there was a dangerous resurgence, quote-unquote dangerous, as in you and I, we're all dangerous for once again questioning how the votes get counted in California.
[00:38:03] By the way, India, which has the largest population in the world, they're able to decide their elections in one day. They count the ballots immediately. So the idea of, God forbid, questioning whether things are kosher or not when it just so happens to take a month, it seems to be a month at this point, to count the votes in California, well, you're immediately shot down, just like people were shot down in 2020 when they call you dangerous.
[00:38:33] Then that segues to they believe they have the moral authority to ban you from social media platforms, to shut you down, to force you to lose your jobs, get you fired, for God forbid, questioning these things. And, of course, it's always in the name of democracy. Yes, the coverage and the divergence on this story, truly striking. We have ABC 7 and CBS Los Angeles reporting the Pratt result as a simple normal count.
[00:39:02] But Glenn Beck is on the record saying federal charges are coming. So how does the Media Research Center document that split between what I like to call real America, common sense America, and those media outlets on the coast that want to spin the story? And what should people be watching out for right now and understand why the framing matters for their communities? Watch for the media hypocrisy. And that's what we've been studying. Abby Phillips on CNN, the other day,
[00:39:30] she went on a tirade because she was accusing President Trump of wanting to cheat elections. So whenever elections don't go their way, oh, then it's totally A-OK to accuse the right of cheating and for calling us dictators and fascists, as they've been doing for years. But when it comes to things like Abigail Spanberger supporting, claiming she doesn't support gerrymandering when she was running for governor, and suddenly she supported the gerrymandering in Virginia,
[00:39:59] where they unconstitutionally took all the districts to the point where it was a five to six ratio. Now they tried until it was shut down by the courts to have only one district out of 10 districts that were allowed to be Republican in that state. And of course, Spanberger actually said, well, we need to make sure we have gerrymandering in the name of democracy. This is what they always do.
[00:40:26] Their ideology, their method is by any means necessary, whether that is waging political lawfare, whether that is tampering with the votes or gerrymandering, or whether that is essentially getting violent and shooting their opponents or justifying the murder of their opponents in the name of democracy. Oh, it's unbelievable to watch. And you think they'd be happy with the gerrymandering of New England, Illinois, California,
[00:40:55] but Virginia, they wanted to overstep their bounds. And thank God for the Supreme Court on that correct decision. I recommend everyone going and reading that in their spare time when it comes to Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act. Now, the Media Research Center often tracks how networks cite the Southern Poverty Law Center. There's a hearing happening as we speak. Tea Party Patriots action is on this list. They call us terrorists. Justine, it's unbelievable.
[00:41:22] Here's a clip of Chairman Jim Jordan's announcement of this morning's congressional hearing. Yeah, they portray themselves as fighting racism and fighting hate out there, but instead what they were doing was paying racists to be racist. I mean, they were running a scam. As the clip that you showed demonstrates, they made a ton of money from doing this, so it worked for them. But maybe the real thing that bothered me was it wasn't just that they were running a scam. It's the influence they had, particularly with the Biden Justice Department.
[00:41:52] The Biden Justice Department had quarterly meetings with them. The Biden Justice Department had them come in and help train prosecutors. And it was manifest when you remember now the memorandum that the FBI put out saying, if you were a pro-life Catholic, you were an extremist. Guess who was cited in that memo? It was the Southern Poverty Law Center. So they create this scam. They make a lot of money for it. They become the standard. They label the Family Research Council a hate group.
[00:42:21] Moms for Liberty a hate group. Alliance Defending Freedom were labeled a hate group. But Jane's Revenge, who firebombed and vandalized churches in crisis pregnancy centers in the aftermath of the Dobbs decision, they never made their list. So this is why this prosecution is so darn important and why we subpoenaed documents today and were scheduled on June 9th to have the CEO of the Southern Poverty Law Center in front of the committee. Well, this is incredible. And obviously, these are public hearings. We can all watch.
[00:42:51] So subpoenas. And you actually think you can bring people to justice. What happens next? Yeah, the justice. And God bless Todd Blanche. As I said, Todd Blanche, Cash Patel, they're investigating these guys. So if there's criminal activity, and that's what the indictment says, that there was criminal activity going on, these individuals will be held accountable. That's how our system works. But it is important for Congress to do our constitutional duty, to do oversight, so the country knows what happened. And if we need to do something legislatively, that's why we do the oversight,
[00:43:20] to find out what, if anything, needs to happen on the legislative front. So we'll do our due diligence. But this organization set themselves up as the standard. The Biden administration portrayed them as the standard when what they were really doing was running an old-fashioned scam. They were, as one witness said, they were the arsonists, and then they pretended to be the firefighter and putting out the fire. But they were creating the very fire they said they were putting out. Justine Brooke-Murray, what does your research tell us about how the left uses
[00:43:49] the Southern Poverty Law Center as a media weapon? And why does this matter for conservative organizations trying to get their message out there? Because for years they used the Southern Poverty Law Center to basically make it okay to ostracize anybody that disagreed with the communists on the left. So when Biden, as Jim Jordan pointed out, when Biden actually recruited SPLC,
[00:44:16] he put people like Charlie Kirk on watch lists. He put Turning Point, their chapters on watch lists, just mainstream conservative groups. And you can tell basically what this whole charade was about. When the SPLC, the hate groups that they listed on their websites, the ones they funded were the actual hate groups, were the KKK groups, the ones they were keeping on life support.
[00:44:44] But the hate groups they listed to try to equate them with the KKK, they didn't fund Turning Point. They listed Turning Point as a hate group, but they didn't fund any of the actual mainstream conservative normal groups that they waged basically war against, that they basically said it is okay to target any conservative and any dissident because they're fascists and they're Nazis.
[00:45:14] And that basically leads to, okay, now it's okay for people to commit violence against us. So this was the SPLC strategy all along. And it's the Democrat Party just going back to their own roots. They love racism. They love division. And it's always in the name of anti-racism. This is the group of Jussie Smollett. Yeah, an excellent point. I can remember that day in Chicago when I thought it was so cold that night into the early morning.
[00:45:43] And then he said it's MAGA country. I thought there's not a lot of Trump voters in the city of Chicago, although he was the best Republican candidate in terms of vote support since Eisenhower. But be that as it may, definitely not MAGA country in Chicago. So Mr. Smollett, we know that he was not telling the truth. But you also have Justine, a sitting United States senator from Vermont, Bernie Sanders, dismissing what's happening with Graham Plattner in Maine today for the vote,
[00:46:11] saying that there are actual Nazis in the U.S. Senate. So we know that that rhetoric continues. And we hope that our friends on the left side of the aisle will cool it down and not treat the right like enemies, but rather as friendly competition. Now, we've had a situation in CBS. Apparently, Scott Pelley is crying on the way out. What say you at the Media Research Center regarding his tenure and someone who seemed rather shocked that he actually had to bring in viewership,
[00:46:40] bring in money, bring in funds for his corporate outlet? This is a guy who was paid at least $5 million a year to lie to us all. And it was funny when he threw his little temper tantrum. He said, I'm standing against media bias. The media wasn't biased. CBS wasn't biased because he says so. And he says it wasn't biased. So therefore, that must totally be true.
[00:47:07] And I remember actually when Katie Couric, she was a former 60 Minutes host. She recently came out and said, well, actually, we shouldn't be balanced. Balance is bad. So you really can't take these people seriously. When they, on one hand, want to claim, oh, well, 60 Minutes, we were just the arbiters of objectivity. Yet at the same time, they have their former host saying,
[00:47:32] actually, we're supposed to be partisan in the name of being objectives, true journalists. And we're supposed to believe Scott Pelley, the guy who went on a graduation stage, basically gave a tirade about how evil Trump is. We were supposed to believe, as he says, that he was the guy basically holding the fort at CBS. He also, in a New York Times interview, started whining and moaning, comparing his firing to the murder of a spouse.
[00:48:02] You can't get more self-important and also selfish and so out of touch than saying that. He also had to note, by the way, when he was screaming at his former bosses in that room, he said, well, I just want to let you all know that the rest of the room, they all got up and applauded for me because he is such a martyr. He's such a martyr, Rob, that they all had to get up on their tables and chant, oh, captain, my captain.
[00:48:31] I've never met any, I've never met more narcissists than in the field of journalism. In this field, at least on the left, at least with the legacy media, they're dominated by people who are just so entirely full of themselves. I've never met anyone more smug than our media elite, especially when they've realized that no one has use for them anymore.
[00:48:59] And we've realized that the media has been lying to us for years. So when they're kicked out of their cushy jobs, they cry victim. Well, we wish Mr. Pelly well, but yes, Justine, I think he needs a nomination for best supporting actor. Someone also stating that he never wore the uniform, but holding back tears, he fought for this country. I mean, what an absolute disgrace to our military. So we wish him well, but maybe it is a reality check.
[00:49:28] So for a conservative watching today who wants to fight back against this media bias around the election integrity and various stories happening in our country, what's the single most effective action they could take this week leading up to the fall elections? Well, I'll do a self-plug here. You can always visit newsbusters.org for our latest expose of whatever the media is lying to you about currently. And of course, today it's about California.
[00:49:59] And tonight it will probably, after Graham Plattner, they'll continue to tell you that you should have supported the guy with the Nazi tattoo in order to defeat the so-called Nazis. And when you see that, when you see the media lying to you, call it out. Anyone can, the sad thing is, is that the standard of journalism, the bar has gone so low to the point where anybody can actually be a believable journalist.
[00:50:27] And they probably are more believable and more factual than what the legacy media is telling them. So I encourage any young person to go out there, like what Nick Shirley is doing, and investigate some of these places. Go to those protests and conduct man-on-the-street interviews and see who's being paid to protest. Go to the polling stations and see how people actually feel
[00:50:54] instead of just allowing yourself to be fed lies. We are so grateful for your work. Where can we find you online as you compete against a mainstream, well, I should call them the lamestream media, that has an alternative view on virtually everything. Yeah, sure thing. You can visit us at MRC Video on X. We are also at the Media Research Center. That's our website. You can also visit us, same name, on YouTube or Instagram.
[00:51:25] Justine Brooke Murray, she's the host of Woke of the Week and with the Media Research Center doing some amazing work out of Washington, D.C. Thanks for joining us on the Jenny Beth Show. Always good to see you. Thank you. Now, before we close, one more time, this action, call every House member. Tell your congressman to attach the Save America Act to every single bill that moves, and that includes FISA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, reauthorization in the House, voting for it this week.
[00:51:54] The Save America Act requires that proof of citizenship to register to vote in federal elections. Fifty United States senators have already voted for it, but the Senate parliamentarian struck it down on a procedural ruling under the Byrd rule. That is not defeat. It's simply an obstacle, and we go around obstacles. So call Congress right now, 202-224-3121. That's 202-224-3121.
[00:52:23] That goes to the Capitol switchboard. Tell them your name, your state, your congressman's name, and tell them to attach the Save America Act and go to passthesaveamericaact.com. That's passthesaveamericaact.com to sign the petition to share it with everyone you know. 50 senators. Let's get the House to finish it, spend two-plus years of work, and we will see the fruits of our labor coming through very soon. Also this week,
[00:52:53] the House is voting on that Secure America Act. That is the $70 billion border enforcement funding bill that passed the Senate 52-47 last Friday. We want that bill passed, too. The Permanent Trump Secure Border Act from Congressman Chip Roy is also moving. This codifies the border policies that ended the crisis. Three bills all moving this week. Call your congressman on all of them, and thank you for that support.
[00:53:21] Thank you to Ms. Sonia Shaw, Frank Pavone, and Justine Brooke-Murray. Three guests, one message. California at stake. Faith is in this fight, and the media is not going to tell you the truth about really anything, and that's why you have to tune in to great shows here like the Jenny Beth Show. These are common sense 50-state solutions to preserve our constitutional republic for another 250-plus years. I'm Robert McNeely, director of Broadcasting and Grassroots Engagement
[00:53:50] for Tea Party Patriots Action. Guest hosting today, and Jenny Beth will be back tomorrow. But in case you missed yesterday's show, we had the most wonderful time celebrating the success of our friends, Moms for Liberty over the weekend. Yes, we were aboard the USS Midway in San Diego Harbor, remembering D-Day and the heroes who helped secure the freedoms and liberty we treasure today. Natasha Owens and Mary Milbin sang the national anthem and armed forces medley.
[00:54:18] Marissa Strait from PragerU, and Wall Builders founder, David Barton, reminded us of our proud history. And of course, the great Glenn Beck gave an incredible keynote speech after fireworks. And as he put it, you never want to follow kids or fireworks to give a speech, but if anyone can do just that, it's Glenn Beck. Now let's share those photos, as you see below, where we had a Tom Cruise Maverick impersonator. Unfortunately, I missed the photo with him, but it was great to catch up with Glenn Beck,
[00:54:47] a hero in my life and inspiration. And one of the reasons why I get to do what I get to do here on the Jenny Beth show. Now the Legacy of Liberty Award honors those lives that reflect an enduring commitment to courage, service, and the defense of freedom across generations. Podcast host and former ESPN Sports Center anchor Sage Steele was granted this prestigious honor along with her father, Colonel Gary Steele, who reminded us to choose the harder right instead of the easier wrong
[00:55:17] and never to be content with a half truth when the whole can be one. It's a direct excerpt from the cadet prayer recited at West Point where he broke the color barrier by playing on their football team during his tenure at the military academy. In fact, his brother was one year behind him and their father, this is Sage's grandfather, Major Frank Richard Steele, a Buffalo soldier, was also honored with this award. Three generations, truly an extraordinary family.
[00:55:46] And fun fact, Colonel Steele's brother-in-law also served in the Navy aboard the USS Midway. So thank you to Tina Deskovich and the Moms for Liberty for their courageous work and a D-Day remembrance I won't soon forget. Remember to go to passthesaveamericaact.com. Again, call 202-224-3121. That's passthesaveamericaact.com. 202-224-3121. And subscribe, like, share, subscribe,
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