SAVE America Act Bolted to the Defense Bill to Force the Senate's Hand | Mitchell, McNeily

[00:00:00] Today was the last day of this Supreme Court term, and as always, it's a little bit like waiting for the lottery to see how the court rules. Did we win? Did we not win? I seriously doubt our founders intended the court to have such a dramatic effect on the American people.

[00:00:15] Today, the court ruled no men in women's sports. President Trump shared the big win on a post on Truth Social, stating that the United States Supreme Court just ruled against men playing in women's sports. Wow, that takes that ridiculous situation off the table. And boy, it was a ridiculous situation to have been on the table in the first place.

[00:00:38] The court also repealed a major part of McKean Feingold, ruling that the law's limits on political parties' coordinated expenditures violate the First Amendment. And unfortunately, finally, the court ruled against our country's best interest in saying that birthright citizenship is a right.

[00:00:57] You are a citizen as long as you are born here, regardless of whether your parents are in the country legally or not, whether you are here temporarily or a permanent resident, or if you're just visiting to give birth, or even if you have allegiance to another country or your parents have allegiance to another country. It doesn't matter. As long as you are born here, you are a citizen. That is a decision our country will come to regret.

[00:01:24] And yesterday, the Supreme Court ruled that Election Day does not actually mean Election Day. I'm Jenny Beth Martin. This is The Jenny Beth Show, and we're going to break it all down for you today. Welcome to The Jenny Beth Show.

[00:01:55] The decision from the court about birthright citizenship is maddening to those of us who love our country and want what's best for America. And yesterday, in the Watson v. the RNC case, Supreme Court justices ruled that a state can keep counting ballots that were mailed in days and days after the polls close, as long as those ballots are postmarked in time.

[00:02:20] Amy Coney Barrett wrote the majority opinion, and John Roberts and all three liberal justices joined her. But here's what I want you to see today. Within an hour of the decision yesterday, the conservative movement already had an answer. Pass the Save America Act. Proof of citizenship to register to vote. Voter ID to cast a ballot. And the House of Representatives is trying to do that yet again for a fourth time.

[00:02:47] Speaker Mike Johnson and the House Freedom Caucus worked out a deal to take the Save America Act and bolt it onto one bill Congress cannot walk away from. The national defense bill. And they will dare the Senate to strip it out. Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna says she wants a baked in so that it cannot be pulled back out. Congressman Chip Roy says to stay on offense. Let's take a look at what Chip Roy said.

[00:03:14] Well, look, I trust the president to make good decisions about what he thinks he wants to accomplish in order to finish through and make sure we win the midterms. But, you know, I know the speaker feels very strongly about moving forward with the Save America Act. And no, I don't believe we ought to be moving forward on pieces of legislation that aren't that important to voters if we don't get this done. Now, there are things we can do. For example, we can pass the National Defense Authorization Act, like I said before, with the Save America Act passed. Let's keep sending that to the Senate.

[00:03:40] We can also be smart and do things like pass a version of H.R.2, the strong border security bill we passed in the last Congress, send that to the Senate and tell them that they should codify the great work the president is doing to secure the border. If we don't do that, then one day when there's a Democrat president and we have another Biden Mayorkas, they'll just open the borders up again. And then you have Lakin Riley getting killed. You have Jocelyn Nungary getting killed. We should stop that now by codifying it. These are the things the American people want to see us do.

[00:04:10] And by the way, we can campaign right now on all the great stuff we've done that Democrats have fought. We were the ones that made the tax cuts permanent. We're the ones that reduced fraud and Medicaid. We're the ones that saved $1.7 trillion. We're the ones that cut half of the Green New Scam subsidies back so we can get our energy prices down. We're the ones that funded ICE and Border Patrol when Democrats didn't want to do it. We have something we can campaign on. Let's keep fighting for voter integrity. Let's keep fighting for border security. Let's keep fighting to back up the president.

[00:04:39] And then let's go win in November. But let's not fold and go home. Let's show the American people we're fighting for them. That's right. We're not going to fold. We're not going to go home. We're going to continue to fight. And I think that that is an important thing to remember. The Supreme Court decisions don't go the way we want half the time. And I think that what's going on with the court in many ways is broken. It's not what our founders intended.

[00:05:03] With that said, when they go back and they look at the Constitution and they're looking at the original intent and they rule in that manner, I appreciate it. And I think that's what they should be doing. No matter how the court rules, though, it doesn't take our responsibility away as activists and citizens.

[00:05:20] We can't let a ruling that we don't like, like the one about birthright citizenship or the ridiculous one yesterday about Election Day and not really being Election Day, get us so discouraged that we wash our hands and walk away and say we won't be engaged. We have to continue to be engaged. Our opponents are not going anywhere. They are doubling down and doing all they can to elect Marxists and communists to American elected office.

[00:05:48] And when it comes to the Save America Act, our opponents continue to try to say that proof of citizenship is redundant because voting as a noncitizen is already illegal. What they never tell you is there's no way to enforce it. Yesterday's ruling widened that gap because the court said that Congress did not specify Election Day as a single day for ballots to be returned.

[00:06:11] Forget that when Congress passed that law or passed that law, they never imagined the mail and voting system would be abused the way it is today. The court previously said that Congress needed to clean up the National Voter Registration Act and that being a citizen to vote does not necessarily require proof of citizenship to register to vote since the MVRA did not specifically require proof of citizenship.

[00:06:36] The point is Congress has to clean up the messes it made in our elections. And the Save America Act is one bill needed to do just that because it addresses the mess Congress created in the National Voter Registration Act. Let me bring in our panel. Cleta Mitchell is a founder of the Election Integrity Network and a senior legal fellow at the Conservative Partnership Institute. She knows election law inside and out.

[00:07:02] And Robert McNeely is the director of grassroots engagement and broadcasting at Tea Party Patriots Action. Robert, Cleta, thank you both so much for being on the show with me again today. Thank you, Jenny Beth. It's nice to be here. Always a pleasure, Jenny Beth. And hi, Cleta. Great to have you. Great to see you. And we have a lot of ground to cover, so let's get into it. Cleta, this seems to be our favorite topic.

[00:07:27] The House now is working to pass the Save America Act yet again for a fourth time because the Senate just won't do its job. Where does this fight actually stand right now? And what do people seeing this and hearing this podcast need to know? Well, I want to just give a shout out to Speaker Mike Johnson because he is relentless. And I know we push him and we do things that sometimes he wishes we wouldn't do.

[00:07:54] But as I've said to him, Mr. Speaker, you have 40 or 50 or 100 jobs. We have one job. And that one job is to make sure that we get the Save America Act passed. And he is constantly thinking of what can be done. He's even been over to the Senate and met with the Senate, met with Senate leaders, met with Senator Thune. He's been at the White House. I mean, senators need some leadership.

[00:08:22] And honestly, Speaker Mike Johnson is trying to provide that leadership when others are not. So let's just break it down. Let's start at the very beginning. Let's never forget this one thing. The reason that we have not been able to pass the Save America Act through the Senate so far is because not a single Democrat senator has been willing to vote for the bill or any part of the bill.

[00:08:50] So when we see John Fetterman saying, Senator Fetterman from Pennsylvania saying, oh, I would support voter ID. But when that was put on the floor of the Senate to stand alone, just voter ID, he voted no with every other Democrat. So let's just start with that. Every Democrat in the Senate votes no. Now, so that leaves us with a majority of Republicans support the Save America Act.

[00:09:19] We've had multiple votes, several votes, but we know that we have at least 50 United States senators, Republican senators who have voted for and have said they will continue to vote for the version of the Save America Act passed by the House of Representatives back in March. So we start with that. We have 50 votes.

[00:09:41] And if we can get it to the floor with a process that enables it to pass by a simple majority, Senator J.D. Vance, Vice President J.D. Vance, excuse me, will be in the chair and he can cast the tie-breaking vote so that we can pass the Save America Act with a simple majority. Our problem are these historic Senate rules. And you and I, Jenny Beth, we've worked pretty hard to try to understand these arcane rules.

[00:10:10] I always swore I would never do that. But every time I say I'm not going to go learn something, then I'm forced to do it. And so what I have realized about the Senate rules are the following.

[00:10:20] The Senate filibuster rules where senators can engage in unlimited debate provide that if a party, if a group of senators or one senator opposes anything that's coming before the Senate as legislation, they've already done away with the filibuster for judicial nominations and executive appointments.

[00:10:45] So now we're left with the filibuster that applies to the unlimited debate applies to legislation. And the rules say that each senator is entitled to speak twice against a bill that is pending before the Senate. That's what the rule says. There was, however, a ruling by the Senate parliamentarian.

[00:11:10] Who knew that there was this 101st person in the United States Senate that has 100 elected members, one unelected person who seems to be more powerful than the rest of the Senate put together?

[00:11:23] And if there is a ruling by the Senate parliamentarian, if you can believe this, back in 1986, 40 years ago, that in which the parliamentarian ruled that every time an amendment is offered to a bill that is being filibustered, it restarts the clock for the two speech rule. Meaning you can never, the filibuster can never be ended by debating.

[00:11:52] And the arguments for having an actual debating or talking filibuster is that perhaps the octogenarians in the Senate will be so worn out that they'll finally cry uncle and just allow the bill to go forward in some fashion. But that's not in the rules. So I can, I can, the point is we have a majority. We can get to a majority.

[00:12:15] What we cannot get to yet is 60 votes to cut off debate or a willingness by the Senate leadership to overrule the parliamentarian and to provide one of, a couple of different paths to calling, being able to call the bill up and let it pass on a simple majority.

[00:12:38] So right now it is the Senate rules and the unwillingness of the Senate leadership, the Senate Republican leadership to challenge or to overturn or to sidestep or find a way around the rules that the Senate has created that keep us from being able to pass it on a simple majority. I hope that made some sense, but that's, that's where we are. We have a majority.

[00:13:05] We just don't have 60 votes and the way the Senate rules are written, unless they are willing to do some things they could do by a simple majority. You know, we're just waiting and waiting and pushing and pressing. Yes. So we're, we're waiting and that's a huge issue, but here's, here's what I want to add one thing onto what you just said about what the Senate is doing. Because we, the leadership is not working to challenge the rules.

[00:13:33] The leadership is not working to say, okay, you can offer an amendment, but we're, we're just going to table every single one. They could do, do that. I think that is still a viable possibility for them. They're, they're not doing that. And then the other thing that the, the other tool in the toolbox for the Senate is to actually go and negotiate on the bill, which is what we used to call legislating. And they're, the, the leadership seems unwilling to do that.

[00:14:03] So it's very frustrating to me that they won't look at the rules. They won't look at how they can work together to table every single amendment that comes forward to prevent the, the extra debating. And they won't actually go try to figure out how they can get votes from the other, the other side of the aisle. They just, they've just said, we give up. We can't do it. But it's not possible.

[00:14:28] And they want to just pat us on our head and treat us like, oh, well, we, you, we tried. You need to understand we tried and that is enough. And it's not. And we're, we're smart enough to see that. Especially with the ruling like we had today about birthright citizenship. We understand what's at stake. We understand that this, this can't go on in our country. So, okay, I'm going to hop off that, that soapbox and quit venting for a second.

[00:14:57] Cleta, well, there are a couple of options for grassroots right now, correct? There, the, there's an option to call the White House and urge the president to veto the bill. And then we have what Speaker Mike Johnson and the House Freedom Caucus have been negotiating to bolt on to the NVR, the, I wanted to say National Voter Registration Act, which is wrong.

[00:15:22] But the National Defense Authorization Act, the NDAA, to bolt the Save America Act onto that and try to push it through the House so it gets to the Senate on what would be considered must pass legislation. What, what do you think are the best actions for the, the activists right now? Well, I think that we should really focus on, on calling senators who have been recalcitrant and not helpful.

[00:15:51] There are, there are three or four senators. Senator McConnell is in the hospital. And so he's been a, a real opponent of doing anything, unfortunately. And I, but, but he's not going to change his vote. Lisa Murkowski is another one who is just horrible on anything that we care about. Just go down the list.

[00:16:18] But people should be calling her and you should be putting in, you should be watching her. The only reason that Lisa Murkowski is in the United States Senate is because she helped to fund getting ranked choice voting established in Alaska in 2022. That enabled her or 2020. So that enabled her to get reelected in 2022.

[00:16:45] I mean, she, it is an, it's a manipulation of the election rules. So she is on the opposite side of us and most Americans who want fair and honest and accurate elections. And she's put, she's invested a lot to make sure that the Alaska elections are manipulated. And that's what has happened. Now there's a, there's a measure on the ballot in Alaska in November.

[00:17:13] I urge people give money to the repeal, to ranked choice voting, go to the website and find the committee that's pushing for repeal of ranked choice voting and get that passed. It almost passed two years ago. The proponents were outspent. They basically spent about a hundred thousand and the, the people who want to manipulate Alaska elections spent over 14 million. But Lisa Murkowski is a huge problem.

[00:17:42] I don't think we're going to get her. We just need to get rid of her. But then you have Tom Tillis and now Bill Cassidy, who was defeated in the Louisiana primary. And we need to, we need to push, put pressure on both of them. We're going to lose. Tom Tillis is leaving the Senate as is Bill Cassidy, as is John Cornyn, who's now been saying some things that are not very helpful.

[00:18:05] And so we don't know for sure how he's going to vote now that he's lost his primary after President Trump endorsed his opponent. But, you know, what we need to do is we need to keep pressure on all three of them and on John Curtis from Utah, who's a bit of a wild card.

[00:18:23] So those are four senators that we need to keep pressure on, that we want them to do what they can to get the bill to the floor and to vote for the bill, but also to help support whatever changes need to be made in the rules to be able to bring it to the floor on a majority. And I would add Susan Collins.

[00:18:46] She is committed to vote for the Save America Act as it was passed by the House, and she has done that when it was offered as an amendment to the DHS funding bill a few weeks ago. But she has not yet been willing to support any measure that would make it possible for us to bring the bill to the floor and pass it on a majority vote. So we're really asking people to do two things.

[00:19:10] Call your senators, remind them, and I don't care if it's a Democrat, I don't care if it's a Republican, just keep calling them and reminding them that we want them to vote for the Save America Act. If we could get eight Democrats to get to 60 votes, that would be good. Why don't we see if we can get eight Democrats to vote for cloture? They don't have to vote for the bill, just vote for cloture. Maybe that would be something we could work on.

[00:19:38] The problem is we have a two-tiered request of senators, and it's hard sometimes for the grassroots because we're used to just saying, just do this one thing. But with the Senate, you can never be just one thing. It's always got to be more complicated. So I would say call your senator, tell them you support the Save America Act, and tell them you want them to vote for whatever rules or procedural measures there might be to get the bill to be able to be passed with a majority.

[00:20:07] And we don't really know what that is, but we want them to vote to get it to the floor to pass it on a majority, if that makes any sense. It makes sense to me. And, Robert, you've been with the grassroots, and we know we've got 50 senators who are on the record supporting the bill. What have you been hearing from the grassroots? Well, Cleta, doing a great job explaining what's at hand right now. And we know those 50 votes are right there.

[00:20:33] We've seen this through the reconciliation attempts with great senators like John Kennedy out of Louisiana. But we were in Washington, D.C. last week for the kickoff of the Great American State Fair. And we got to talk to those very we the people waiting for President Trump's speech to kick off the fair right on the National Mall. And we have a clip of that to showcase what they feel about the Save America Act. I'm from New Hampshire originally, which used to be that when I was growing up in the reddest of red states in the union, and now it's blue.

[00:21:03] And I went to a high school reunion, and I asked, well, what happened? And a friend of mine who's a cop up there told me, he said, you know, I hear a lot about Biden. This is a few years ago. He said with the illegals. He goes, you know, you don't realize as soon as Obama got sworn in, the chartered buses started arriving at like 2, 3 in the morning and dumping off like 100 illegals night after night after night. So they flooded the state. And then Democrats got a bit of a control. And then they pass a law.

[00:21:30] It is illegal at the polls to ask somebody if they are a citizen. So the illegals get to vote. Pass the Save America Act! Pass the Save America Act! Pass the Save America Act! Pass the Save America Act! Pass the Save America Act! Senator John Thune, this is we the people to the Capitol, to the Congress. Pass the Save America Act. And that's what we have to do right now. We have to pass the Save America Act. It's common sense.

[00:21:57] And I believe if Republicans don't do this in the Senate, it really jeopardizes those in the House who fought so hard for it. On top of it, I don't like to give Senator John Ossoff now here in my adopted home state of Georgia any advice. But if he broke away with Democrats and actually voted to pass the Save America Act, he would probably have a really good chance at defeating Mike Collins.

[00:22:20] But we know that Senator John Ossoff will get into it later in the show, making some wild votes, not one but two but three times against Title IX. And thank God for that Supreme Court ruling with common sense today that men do not belong in women's sports. So think about this, ladies, especially as we head towards the midterms and voting in November. Cleta, let's talk about the Supreme Court for a minute.

[00:22:44] Justices Barrett and Roberts joined the liberals to let ballots come in days and days and days after Election Day. Why is it such a problem to allow ballots to come in so long after Election Day? Okay. How and how do we fix this problem? And also, how do you see this adding to the urgency of the same to pass the Save America Act? Well, you know, I get so frustrated with the Supreme Court with Justice, Chief Justice Roberts.

[00:23:13] It's as though he does not have a core set of principles that he applies to any and every case. It's that he's looking, he's like a parent, and somehow that he has to give something to these children and then something to these children so that he's not playing favorites. That is not his role. His role should be to do exactly what he said in his confirmation hearings 20 years ago, which was to call balls and strikes, just call them as he sees them. But he's not doing that.

[00:23:41] He's trying to mollify, really, the liberal faction on the court. That opinion written by Amy Coney Barrett yesterday in the Watson v. Mississippi case, honestly, it's as though somebody said to me, and I think this is a good point,

[00:24:03] this is why you don't ever want to put a law professor on a court, because it is devoid of practical application. It is nonsense. Her ruling, her opinion, which the Chief Justice and then the three, the gaggle of three liberal left-wing justices,

[00:24:27] they ruled that there is somehow a difference between casting a ballot, that the election does not turn on receiving the ballot into the ballot box, but it's the act of the choice that defines election day, not the receipt of the ballot,

[00:24:50] that those are somehow two distinct and separate things, and that the court has ruled that election day applies only to the act of choosing. Well, how do you choose? How do we as voters choose without making sure that our ballot is actually received?

[00:25:11] I mean, to me, it's like when you throw the ball that there's no, that those are completely different. I mean, you throw the ball, but once it's thrown, it doesn't matter if it's caught. It doesn't matter if it's inbounds. It doesn't matter. Well, that's all ridiculous. And so, I don't know. I just, there's so many things about it,

[00:25:37] but I will tell you that I think that there is a lot in that opinion that makes me think we need to, Congress needs to step up and do some things, as we were talking about earlier. Congress needs to clean up the statute that the court really hung its head on. It's the opinion of, basically based its opinion on a federal statute, the Uniform Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act, YoCava,

[00:26:05] which allow, which references that the deadline is what it, you know, it doesn't specify the deadline. It just says received by the states, by the applicable date. Okay, that's sloppy writing. It was a Chuck Schumer proposal. And what has happened since YoCava became law? It, we've seen the military portion of YoCava go from being the primary focus of YoCava

[00:26:34] to being the military vote is about 25% of YoCava, because the Democrats have figured out how to manipulate YoCava for civilians, not for the military, but for civilians. So, but I think that there is a lot in this, in this decision that makes me think we need to file some more cases. Because, for instance, it said, oh, well, the law says that they have to be postmarked, Mississippi law. I'm sorry.

[00:27:04] They don't even know that a lot of times ballots are not actually postmarked. And if they're coming in from overseas, many states are allowing them to come in by email. So there's not a postmark on that either. And they could be actually, that's the other thing. If they're allowed to come in electronically, there's no excuse for not having them in by election day and time the polls close.

[00:27:27] California, this mess in California, we still don't have final election results from the primary. It was the first part of June, and tomorrow is July. And so a month later, and they're still receiving and counting ballots. And they don't have to have a postmark. California doesn't require a postmark. They can put whatever date they want to on it and just say, oh, yeah, you know, they can put a date on it that is not verified.

[00:27:57] So the Supreme Court, there's so many ways in which the Chief Justice and Amy Coney Barrett and the three left-wing justices, where they just ignore reality. They've created problems that we are going to have to now try to get remedied. But, you know, as you said earlier, we don't stop. We can't ever stop. We always have to keep fighting. Our opponents don't stop.

[00:28:23] And, of course, these crazies on MS, whatever that is, MS Now and Mark Elias and all those lefties, they were crowing about this radical idea was defeated, the radical idea that ballots have to be in by the time the polls close on election day. For them, that's radical because then they cannot manipulate the outcome. And I'll just close with this.

[00:28:48] Remember, there were four U.S. House seats in 2024 that on election day, the Republicans had wide margins, wide margins leading four U.S. House seats. By the time the ballots trickled in over the next period of a month, the Republicans lost all four of those seats. That's why these Democrats and their left-wing allies, that's why they want to be able to have ballots come in.

[00:29:18] I mean, just think of any competitive sporting match. I mean, wouldn't it be great if one side could just rustle up more votes or more points, more scores after the clock had run out? That's what they do. And that's why we have to do some things to try to remedy and overcome what the Supreme Court did yesterday. It was a really dumb opinion. But I just, I knew when I, I started worrying about it last week.

[00:29:48] When it didn't come out last week, I thought there's something wrong. And unfortunately, that was right. Yeah, it really, it's, it is a very bad, very bad opinion. And at some point, it will have to be cleaned up. And we're just going to have to keep working until we get it cleaned up. And there are some other rulings that can give us a little bit of hope. And we'll talk about that. We're going to take a short break.

[00:30:17] But one thing that I do want to say before we go into that break is that one of the rulings from yesterday overturned 93, I think it was 93 years of precedent in the court. So sometimes it takes a long time for the court to get things right. But there's hope. And we just, we have to hold on to that and not lose, not lose hope. All right, hold on just a minute and we'll be right back. You are the grassroots of America. You love this country.

[00:30:45] When you love something, really love it, the news doesn't just inform you, it fires you up. And you find yourself asking, how can I make a difference? That is exactly what this show is built to answer. Never, ever, ever, ever give up. We owe it to every American who has ever voted to make America great again. We owe it to our future selves. We owe it to this republic to stand tall, to stay active, and to be smart about how we spend our energy so that we can win.

[00:31:15] Here on the Jenny Beth Show, we're going to help you do exactly that. Every show, we will break down the news, connect it to first principles, and give you specific, effective ways to take action. Not just outrage, action. And I am so glad you're here on this journey with us to do it. So let's get to it. Welcome to the Jenny Beth Show.

[00:31:47] We had three major rulings today. One was no men and women's sports. Two, preventing major political parties and, well, saying that the major political parties in campaigns coordinating is, I'm so sorry, I'm stating that completely wrong.

[00:32:08] When previously the law said that major political parties in campaigns could not coordinate, that that prohibition is actually a violation of free speech. And three, birthright citizenship stands regardless of the legality, which we kind of went over before. Can you break down the other two cases for us? Well, the no men and women's sports is a really great ruling.

[00:32:37] And as I say, this is, you know, Chief Justice Roberts, you know, he any, me, me, me, mo. And so he'll pick this. Okay, I will give this. I'll vote with these people on this and I'll vote with these people on this.

[00:32:47] But he at least voted right on the, on the, the ruling is that states who pass, that pass laws saying that there can be no men in women's sports, that those laws do not violate any rights of the supposed transgender, these men who want to play in women's sports.

[00:33:08] And so the states are free and Congress is free to enact statutes that restrict, prohibit or prohibit those kinds of activities. It's crazy that we even have to have this as a point of discussion, but that is the ruling that this, but the states and Congress can pass those laws and not worry about constitutional impediments.

[00:33:30] The ruling about the ruling, the ruling, interestingly, this goes back to the 1974 post-Watergate amendments to the campaign finance laws that were enacted in 1974. One of the things that Congress did at that time was that it placed expenditure limits on what candidates could spend.

[00:33:56] And it also placed limits on how much, on how much political parties could spend in coordination with their party candidates and nominees. Now, fast forward to the 1990s, the Supreme Court ruled, and this was before Justice Roberts and the Roberts Court. This was still within the, the Berger and the Rehnquist Court.

[00:34:25] And it ruled that the prohibition, well, let me go back. In 1976, the, in Buckley versus Vallejo, the first landmark ruling on campaign finance, the court at that time struck down the expenditure limits on candidates, saying that having a candidate expenditure limit is like saying you can drive as far as you possibly want to drive, but you can only use one take of gas.

[00:34:53] So they struck down the expenditure limits on candidates. Fast forward in the late 90s, the Supreme Court ruled that, well, they weren't going to get rid of the expenditure limits on the parties altogether. But what they did say was parties like anybody else could make unlimited independent expenditures.

[00:35:16] So for the last 20-something years, the political parties that go out and raise all this money, and they have what they call independent expenditure units, and they hand out hundreds of millions of dollars to these consultants to just go spend it however they want to, to try to support the nominees of the party. And the Supreme Court today finally said, all expenditure limits are unconstitutional and violate the First Amendment.

[00:35:44] But it has taken since 1974 to get this ruling, to get rid of something, a mistake the Democratic Congress made post-Watergate. So that was that ruling.

[00:35:56] The birthright citizenship ruling, it's just so disturbing because it just, it basically, it underscores how important it is that Congress establish rules and guidelines for citizenship. No other country in the world hands out citizenship the way the United States does.

[00:36:24] Nobody else has this rule that if you're born there, no matter who your parents are, what nationality, whether they're citizens or not, or hostile to the country or not. And so I read something this morning after the ruling came down that Kavanaugh, well, that Kavanaugh's, Kavanaugh who voted with the left on this one, and he said Congress could fix this by statute. So yet another fight we have to have with the U.S. Senate.

[00:36:53] But I think that we have to, we have to keep the pressure on Congress to do its job. And I also just want to say, Jenny Beth, you're 100% right about what you said at the outset of the program. The founders, the framers of our Constitution never, ever dreamed that this judicial branch of government would ever have the amount of power and authority that somehow we have allowed them to take into themselves.

[00:37:21] The Article III of the Constitution is the judicial branch. And it's very short. And it gives all power to the Congress to create the federal judiciary other than for the Supreme Court. Only the Supreme Court is even referenced in the Constitution. The other courts, the lower courts, the inferior courts as they're referred to in the Constitution. That's all a function of Congress.

[00:37:48] So what we have is a very real situation where the courts that were supposed to be the least influential have somehow become the most influential. And look at all the rulings by these lower courts, these left-wing district court judges who have ruled as though they are somehow the president of the United States. And there are hundreds of these cases.

[00:38:15] Everything from not turning over voter rolls when the black letter law says the attorney general is entitled to every election record. That's what – there are four statutes that say that. And you have these judges totally ignoring it. So many – all the rulings on – you know, one by one, the Supreme Court has overturned some of these restrictions on what the president is trying to do on immigration.

[00:38:42] But, oh, my goodness, we're a year and a half into his presidency. And we've had these judges interfering with his ability to carry out what the people elected him to do. So I think we have – look, I think that we have a constitution – some constitutional crises on our hands. With the power of the courts, the inability of the United States Senate, one half of the legislative branch.

[00:39:06] So to me, we have one and a half branches of the three branches of the federal government that are either overstepping their bounds or not exercising their duties. And I think that that's a real problem. Yeah, it absolutely is a real problem.

[00:39:24] And even Justice Alito today about the birthright citizenship case said that the ruling creates grotesque results, preserves incentives for illegal immigration and birth tourism. But he said this – and I think it's a quote. I looked it up while we were on live so I could be getting it wrong. But he says it's a mistake that will seriously affect the country's future.

[00:39:53] And he's absolutely right. And the court – it just – it is not supposed to have this much power. The court didn't even have any rulings initially after the Constitution was written. It took several years before that happened. It is just simply – it's not working the way it is supposed to.

[00:40:17] And I'm not beating up on the justices, and I'm certainly not calling for packing the court or expanding the court. I'm just saying there's something that is not right, and it's not functioning the way it is intended to function. And Congress also is not functioning the way Congress is intended to function. When the court goes back and says, well, Congress needs to clean up the law, well, they actually are right. Congress should be writing much better laws than they are writing.

[00:40:46] And when they create problems like we're trying to get fixed with the Save America Act, they should get those problems fixed. It shouldn't take a Herculean effort to get a bill passed that over 80 percent of Americans agree with. Robert, you predicted these outcomes to the T this morning. What surprised you about the rulings and what did not surprise you?

[00:41:10] Well, I'm left here not very surprised at all, Jenny Beth, because we have contextualism really being argued at the court, which is a positive. And for those out there who say that elections don't matter and that, oh, I don't want to participate in a presidential or midterm election. Well, President Trump, especially in his first term, in so many ways, save the courts to get hundreds of appointees on those federal courts.

[00:41:32] Right now, imagine if Hillary Clinton would have appointed justices that made it so far left, it would have been unrecognizable completely. But I agree with Cleta that if you look at this third article of the government, our judiciary system was not meant to be as powerful as it is today. Clarence Thomas, truly incredible in his dissent.

[00:41:55] Also, along with Justice Alito naming out what the U.S. Solicitor General argued so well against the Supreme Court on behalf of the government, that it's this birth tourism and illegal alien presence in America that can lead to this violation of so-called birthright citizenship. But I'm surprised by as well, looking very quickly into this, that the Wong Kim Ark case of 1898, that's the Chinese citizen at the time,

[00:42:25] the United States not allowing those citizens to become American nationals as a result of their Chinese birthright, not allowed in mostly San Francisco, California, with all that immigration happening there, really cited because that changed the 14th Amendment and really invented birthright citizenship as we know it today. And again, to Cleta's point, 33 countries do this throughout the world.

[00:42:50] The most most countries do not recognize birthright citizenship in their immigration practices. So now we have something for Republicans and really any congressional candidate to run on if they want to write this and use their first article powers. A big shout out, though, to the countless young ladies, especially Paula Scanlon, Riley Gaines, amongst several others who fought so hard for Title IX and protecting women's sports,

[00:43:17] truly as the civil rights issue of our time in the last few years. Common sense winning there at the court. Thanks be to God. And I'm thrilled that McCain-Feingold has been nuked, proverbially speaking, when it comes to this campaign finance. Perhaps super PACs now will have a little bit less power. And again, the parties will have more of a navigation of how they can choose their own respective futures.

[00:43:41] But it reminds me of that President Obama Supreme Court situation where Justice Alito said, no, that's wrong, that's wrong. If you remember that State of the Union responding to him, which you rarely see those evenings when the entire government comes together to hear the president. Clia, the court yesterday handed the president a victory.

[00:44:04] It was 90. It's overturning an over 90 year old rule that was called Humphrey's executor. I don't even think most people have a clue what that is. Can you explain it to us in plain English and why it's important?

[00:44:18] Well, what happened was that as we have seen over really beginning in the 19-teens with the rise of the administrative state and Congress created these things called independent agencies. Now, remember, there are three branches of the federal government, executive, legislative and judicial. We've talked a little bit about that.

[00:44:47] What Congress created in the 19-teens, 1914, and other years around then. But in 1914, the Congress created the Federal Trade Commission that was supposed to oversee trade practices and commerce between and among the states.

[00:45:09] And when Congress created that body, it said that it was independent, that the members would serve for set terms. And the president could not terminate members of that body, the commissioners of the Federal Trade Commission members. And fast forward through the years that had been litigated.

[00:45:32] There was a case in the 19, oh gosh, I think, I can't remember if it was 1930s or 1950s, but in that particular case, it had to do with a challenge. Again, a challenge to this notion of having executive branch agencies that were quasi-independent and referred to as independent from the president.

[00:45:53] And when President Trump took office last year, he fired one of the federal trade commissioners, the FTC, and whose term had not expired. And so that case, she sued, and it went all the way to the Supreme Court. And yesterday, the Supreme Court ruled that the executive branch means executive branch. And no, they're not independent of the president.

[00:46:21] The president has the authority to terminate, to appoint and to terminate members of executive branch agencies. And there's no such thing as having an executive branch agency that is independent of the president. Now, that was one ruling. And so it overturned the case that had basically upheld the right of Congress to have created agencies independent of the president.

[00:46:48] And so the Supreme Court yesterday, with Justice Roberts voting in the majority, ruling that, no, you can't have executive branch agencies that are independent of the president. The president's the chief executive, and he has the authority to appoint and direct executive branch agencies. No such thing as independent. And that'll affect a lot of agencies in the federal government.

[00:47:16] At the same time, the Supreme Court, in the same day, issued another opinion, which said that the president, it didn't say he had no authority to do this, but said he had not followed the proper procedures to terminate a member of governor of the Federal Reserve Board, the Federal Reserve Board of Governors.

[00:47:39] And the president fired one of the Federal Reserve Governors on the basis that she had lied on housing applications to banks. And, of course, the Federal Reserve oversees banks. And so the president said she wasn't fit to be. He announced it on Truth Social in one of his posts.

[00:48:01] And the Supreme Court said, no, if you're going to fire, it's not that you can't fire a governor of the Federal Reserve Board, but you have to do it in a proper way, with proper notice and deep process. So she has to know what she's being charged with. She has to have the opportunity to come in and defend herself. And then the president can decide what he wants to do.

[00:48:23] I predict that the president will send a full-blown legal memo, factual outline of the reasons why he believes that she is not fit to serve. And that case may find its way back to the Supreme Court to determine whether the notice and due process was sufficient. But basically, the Supreme Court gives the president this authority on the one hand, but then pulls it back just a little bit and said, well, you have to go about it the right way.

[00:48:52] So I think that's kind of goofy, but that's what they did yesterday. But that's what I mean about John Roberts, the chief justice, a little here and a little here and a little here. And there's no consistent judicial governing or constitutional philosophy. That's what really bothers me about the chief justice. Yeah, it's quite bothersome. And I understand needing due process if you're being charged with a crime and you are going to court for a crime.

[00:49:22] But it's saying you can't fire someone from a job. That part just makes it isn't. I guess because I come from a right to hire and a right to fire state, it doesn't. It just kind of boggles my mind. And then who is the Fed accountable to? They're not accountable to Congress. They're not accountable to the president. They're not accountable to the court. They're above the law. They're above the Constitution at this point with no checks and balances.

[00:49:52] It's messed up. OK, all of this, the court, the border, birthright citizenship, the elections, the presidency, Congress's role in cleaning things up, activism. It really all ties together when we think about the differences between capitalism and communism and the differences between what we think should happen in America versus what the left thinks should happen in America.

[00:50:19] So let's zoom all the way out and look at what President Trump said yesterday. Mr. President, Zora Mondani said in an interview this week that he was open to being the poster child for socialist candidates. Are you worried about more socialist candidates across the country? Well, I think it's a big threat to our nation, actually, because it's not socialism, it's really communism. They use the word social democrat because it sounds so nice, but it's really communism you're talking about.

[00:50:45] I think it's the biggest threat to our nation there is maybe since our founding. That includes World War I, World War II, September 11th. It includes the Pearl Harbor attack. I think this is the biggest threat to our nation. People will smile when I say that, but the smart people are going to say, you know, he's probably right. It's basically introducing communism into the United States of America. There's never been anything so dangerous.

[00:51:15] Thank you very much, everybody. Robert, the president says socialism is the biggest threat to this country, maybe since the founding. Do you think that's hyperbole or is it real? Oh, it's absolutely real, Jenny Beth, because look at the challenges we have faced as a nation, how God has seen us through these 250 years and how we're celebrating that this week. But also look at socialism and Islamism to humanist secular thought. You could call it globalism.

[00:51:40] Those are truly the three unholy, triumvirate threats against this United States of America. And their antithesis truly is our constitutional foundation as a Republican government, not the party, but the foundation of the fact that our founders gave us one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

[00:52:03] We are a nation of laws. We are all equal in the eyes of God and have that opportunity to pursue happiness as a result. Our Bill of Rights really enshrines those rights from God, not from government. And we should be reminded of that this week, as I do hope people and especially students and children really turn back towards civics in their public, private or homeschool educations to know the glory of this country, what it truly means 250 years later.

[00:52:31] But yes, that threat really coming from within and from the outside, from that socialism, whether it comes in the form of fascism or communism, we have to fight that again. We heard from President Trump last week in the speech to kick off that great American state fair. We might have to do it again to fight and defeat fascism and communism once more. Cleta, you've dedicated your life to our country's greatness and to constitutional conservatism. At 250, why are our founding principles important?

[00:53:01] Why should we be learning more about them and teaching them to others? And why do they matter? Well, they matter because, you know, I think President Reagan is one who said that our freedom is just one generation away at all times, only one generation away from being lost. And we need to understand what our founders did and why they did it.

[00:53:27] We celebrate on Saturday, on July the 4th, we celebrate our Declaration of Independence from Great Britain and the list of grievances and why. Why it is that these colonists found it necessary to separate themselves. And one of the things that it says in the first paragraph is that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed.

[00:53:55] In our country, the way we give and withdraw consent, we are supposed to be in charge. We give consent to those who would govern us and we withdraw consent from those who govern us. And we do that through elections. That's a constitutional process in our founding, our second great founding document, which was the Constitution, that we do that through elections.

[00:54:19] And when elections are manipulated and able to be controlled by the powerful, by those who govern us, instead of by those of us who are the governed, then we have lost the basic principle on which the country is founded, which is our ability to give and withdraw consent. And our government, remember what Thomas Jefferson wrote, derives their just powers. Our government gets its power from us.

[00:54:48] We don't get power from the government. The government gets power from us. We get rights, not from the government, but from God. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. This is not Washington giving us rights. This is they're endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.

[00:55:14] We have to get back to teaching our children those words and what they mean and why it matters. And these people who are getting elected on the Democratic ticket, let me just tell you something, people. We have to start saying these are the Democrats. This is the Democratic Party.

[00:55:33] I used to be a Democrat in Oklahoma many years ago, and I promise you, this is not the Democratic Party of the 1950s or the 19—it became the Democratic Party since the 1960s, and they've moved steadily left, left, left, left, left, until now the president's right. They're communists. And every member of Congress, every candidate who's running against a Democrat needs to point out this is the march.

[00:56:02] This is a steady march of the Democratic Party. And if we don't stop them, we don't call it out and call it like it is. We had a Democratic senator just a few weeks ago in the United States Senate who scoffed at the idea that our rights come from God. A Democrat candidate, a Democrat senator, Tim Kaine from Virginia, who ran for vice president with Hillary Clinton,

[00:56:29] who was aghast at a witness in a hearing stating that our rights come from God. And we should be aghast at him and all of those Democrats who believe like they do. And we have to stop it. And we are going to stop it. We are not going to sit by—and I know, Jenny Beth, you never rest. You never rest. You are the energizer bunny of leaders in America today. And God bless you for it.

[00:56:57] And God bless Tea Party Patriots Action and all the many, many people around the country. But we are not going to let these people steal our country from us. We're just not. So— Absolutely not. That is exactly right. And, Robert, you've been highlighting great patriots this week. Who are you highlighting today? Oh, I have to highlight. There's countless numbers of them.

[00:57:24] But a gentleman who actually saved someone back in 2007 awarded with countless different medals was a New York City fireman. And I looked up the story today. Just an amazing person who actually shoved someone out of the way of an oncoming train. It wasn't a suicide situation. But actually was—almost hit himself in order to give that selfless and timeless charitable act as a neighbor.

[00:57:51] And I'm escaping my name right now or hit my head right now what his name is. But we'll post it up on socials because it's these Americans who make a massive difference on a daily basis. And they often go unnamed. And I recently saw Congressman Trey Gowdy give an amazing speech at Americans for Prosperity right here in Atlanta, Georgia.

[00:58:13] And hearkened on the idea that if you sit on the window side of the plane over our great nation's capital, you see those monuments, those amazing people like George Washington, like Abraham Lincoln. And in many cases willing to lay down their lives, their fortunes, their sacred honor as the 56 signers of the Declaration did just that, willing to accept liberty over tyranny.

[00:58:39] They could have easily been hanged, if not together, apart, as we know from Benjamin Franklin's words. But if you sit on the other side of the plane and you look out across the Potomac at Arlington National Cemetery, General Robert E. Lee's estate, his mansion, his farm, all of those white crosses and those white stars of David, how many names do we know of them? Two presidents buried there as well.

[00:59:03] But how many do we know of the everyday Americans that, as President Reagan reminded us on the 40th anniversary of D-Day over at Pointe du Hoc, they lost not only the lives they were living, but the lives they would come back home to live. Perhaps a fiancé, a spouse, even children waiting for them at home. And if not, their parents as well as siblings.

[00:59:24] So we think about them every holiday that we celebrate and those Gold Star families who go without them at the dinner table on a daily basis. We are indebted to you as Americans, the millions who have sacrificed for this great country. And that's why I'm thrilled to be celebrating this birthday with you, Jenny, Beth, and Cleta, to share that with you and the great grassroots patriots across this country and to highlight those who are ready, willing and able to serve on a daily basis to save this American way of life.

[00:59:54] Robert, thank you so much for that. Cleta, one last question for you. America is at 250. What is your message to Americans? It is that every one of us has a role to play in giving back, being grateful for the freedoms that we enjoy, the blessings of liberty that we enjoy because of the sacrifices of so many, as Robert just said.

[01:00:20] And the way we give back and show how much we love America, how much we appreciate what we've been able to enjoy is to fight to preserve it for our children and our grandchildren. And that's what we have to do. That's why we are all doing what we're doing. And we encourage, we need every voice.

[01:00:40] We need every index finger to push a button to call the Capitol or to write a letter or to send an email or to go work the polls, to volunteer, to wave signs. All of the things that people rose up and did in 2024 to say, we do not want these illegals casting ballots in our elections. And, Jenny Beth, you're a huge part of that.

[01:01:05] And your Save America tour that you did last year, just about this time, the Only Citizens Vote tour, and all the things you've been doing around the country for the Save America Act with the great Scott Pressler. So, look, I mean, going out to meetings, calling your friends, telling your friends, watching this podcast, being informed, that's what we must do to save our country and to be deserving.

[01:01:33] To be deserving of this great country. Thank you so much, Cleta. And thank you, Robert. Thank you both for joining me today and for helping us make sense out of the craziness from the court. Thank you so much, Jenny Beth. Follow Cleta's work at EI Watchdogs and also on social media at Cleta Mitchell. And you can find Robert right here with us at Tea Party Patriots Action. All right.

[01:02:03] Now, stay with me because there are a couple more things before you go. The first thing is that we need to take a minute and go back over our call to action. First, there's a housing bill that's on the president's desk. And Tea Party Patriots Action has asked that we veto—we call the president, urging him to veto this bill. The bill was brought and carried by Maxine Waters and Elizabeth Warren.

[01:02:30] And we want him to veto it unless and until the Save America Act is attached to it. So you can go to whitehouse.gov forward slash contact, whitehouse.gov forward slash contact, to send a message urging the president to veto the housing bill unless and until the Save America Act is added to it. The next thing is the one you've heard from us over and over for weeks on in here now at the Jenny Best Show.

[01:02:58] And that is to call both of your senators. The Capitol switchboard phone number is 202-224-3121. 202-224-3121. Tell both of your senators to pass the Save America Act. And then you can go to passthesaveamericaact.com for everything you need to make those phone calls and for talking points, for answers to any frequently asked questions that you may have.

[01:03:28] So that's passthesaveamericaact.com. And then Cleta asked us also to call these senators and urge them to take a leadership role in helping get the Save America Act through the Senate. And those would be Senators Tillis, Cassidy, Murkowski, Cornyn, and Collins. Tillis, Cassidy, Murkowski, Cornyn, and Collins.

[01:03:53] So urge them to help shepherd this bill through the Senate to get it passed. Now, I want to leave you with something today that has nothing to do with Washington, at least current day Washington, and everything to do with why we fight. Listen to this audio clip from a new podcast series called The Defiant Ones. History will remember the generals. Liberty will never be denied to those who fight when it costs everything.

[01:04:24] It will carve the names of men into marble and ink. But what if I told you they did not fight alone? The women who carried secrets through the shadows and dared to challenge the British crown. In the new code of laws, I desire you would remember the ladies. They must not forget those who helped hold it together.

[01:04:53] Can you hear the sounds of Liberty? Hope. Who knows? Hey, stop! Some of us do not sleep while others guard our freedom. Not one woman, but many. Chosen and marked by the very hand of God. Liberty. But what about the fights of free the enslaved? Are they forgotten?

[01:05:18] Our fight is my fight. I will fight to my last breath. We will not sip submission. Let the crown drink its own poison. I will fight for freedom. Let them come. We shall be ready.

[01:05:50] Even the crown itself would tremble before your pen. And yet it is often the unseen that turns the course of nations. Meet the defiant ones. So that is a podcast series that begins on July 2nd. It is about women who helped us found our country.

[01:06:15] Oftentimes we hear about George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin and John Adams. And we don't focus quite so much on the women like Abigail Adams. And so people know Abigail Adams and Martha Washington. And they know Betsy Ross, but they don't know some of the others. And this series is focusing on them. It's dramatized. It is something that you can listen to with your entire family. And I encourage you to do that.

[01:06:44] It'll be, I think they're dropping one episode a week. So you won't hear them all at one time, but you can hear one a week. And it's something you can do with your children, with your grandchildren, driving in a car, just sitting around at home. Put the phones down and listen to something about our founding and spark your imagination. On tomorrow's episode, I'm interviewing the person who produced the podcast. Her name is Sherry Rigby, and I'll be interviewing her.

[01:07:11] So be sure to check that podcast and episode out tomorrow. But the spirit of the defiant ones, it's what I want you to carry into this country's 250th birthday. Defiant, hopeful, unwilling to quit on the freest nation the world has ever seen. We live in the greatest country God has ever given man. Our ancestors fought to ensure we have liberty.

[01:07:35] And it's up to each of us, every single one, to ensure we pass our liberty on to the next generation. So that in 250 years from now, our great, great, great, great, great grandchildren will know what it's like to live in freedom. It takes hard work and perseverance. But no one ever said this was going to be easy. The challenge has always been to keep our republic.

[01:07:59] And I know, standing with each and every one of you, day in and day out, shoulder to shoulder, we are going to keep our republic. I'm Jenny Beth Martin. Only American citizens should decide American elections, and those who entered our country illegally must be deported. God bless you, and God bless the United States of America. I'll see you next time on The Jenny Beth Show. If you enjoyed today's conversation, go ahead and hit like and subscribe.

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