Free health care for everyone. That is what communist Romania promised, and Oviedo Frasina, who was born in Bucharest under Nicolae Ceausescu, explains what it delivered. The neighborhood clinic had a few doctors and a wait of days, so a sick person who could not wait slipped $100 into the doctor's pocket. A specialist meant another referral, a three-month wait and another bribe. A diagnosis of appendicitis meant bribing the secretary to get through the first door, a second person to find a bed in a crowded ward, and then the nurse who would take care of you. The same system ran everything: bread, car parts that took five months unless you paid, a university place that required paid mentors. Romania built a black market that looked a lot like a free market, right beside the system the government called free.
Then the ward itself: no paper towels, no soap, people fighting over toothpaste. Dr. Yuri Yarim-Agaev adds the Soviet detail, eight, ten or twelve patients to a room, and Sasha Gong makes the point that stops the room: being able to pay a bribe is a sign of progress, because when government controls everything it produces one thing, scarcity. Agnes Gibboney closes with Hungary, where you paid the full price of a car and waited three to five years for it, where hospital patients brought their own toilet paper, forks and knives, and where a knee replacement was a years-long wait. Her verdict on socialized medicine, and on where she thinks America's introduction to it began, ends the clip.
Panelists: Oviedo Frasina (Romania), Dr. Yuri Yarim-Agaev (Soviet Union), Sasha Gong (China) and Agnes Gibboney (Hungary), from the Surviving Communism panel on The Jenny Beth Show with Jenny Beth Martin.
In this segment:
• Days to see a doctor, unless you pay
• Appendicitis: three bribes to get a bed
• Bread, car parts and university places, all under the table
• No soap, no paper towel, fighting over toothpaste
• Twelve patients to a room in the Soviet Union
• Why bribery counts as progress
• Hungary: a car paid for today, delivered in five years
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00:00 — Free socialized medicine in Romania: wait days for an appointment
00:39 — $100 in the doctor's pocket
01:15 — Seeing a specialist: three months, and no medications
01:54 — Appendicitis: bribe the secretary, the second person, and the nurse
02:32 — Bribes for bread, car parts and a university place
03:50 — No soap, no paper towel, fighting over toothpaste
04:38 — Eight, ten, twelve patients to a room; bribery as a sign of progress
05:12 — The clampdown period versus communism that has settled in
05:26 — Hungary: pay for the car now, get it in five years; bring your own forks to the hospital
06:06 — Socialized medicine is the worst thing
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