In this episode of The Jenny Beth Show, CJ Pearson, a prominent young conservative political activist and social media influencer, shares his inspiring journey. Starting his political engagement as a second-grader during the 2008 presidential election, CJ discusses how a classroom exercise sparked his lifelong passion. He talks about the pivotal role his grandparents played in his life, and how he handled the viral fame and backlash from his early political commentary videos.
CJ delves into his experience with PragerU, his candidacy for local office in Augusta, Georgia, and his mission to amplify young conservative voices. He emphasizes the importance of youth engagement in politics, criticizing progressive policies, and advocating for educational reform to counteract indoctrination. The discussion highlights the political dynamics in Georgia, the impact of Democratic policies on minority communities, and the necessity of reaching out to new voter demographics. CJ's insights underscore the potential for a political shift as more Americans seek effective leadership and conservative solutions.
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[00:00:00] So demoralizing, you know, you're gonna tell a black child that regardless of how hard they work, how hard they try, they just shut it. Because it doesn't matter because regardless of how hard they try the system,
[00:00:12] the so-called white man is gonna hold them down, so why would they try? But that is the key to the left control over by Nordie communities. They want us to be broke. They want us to be hopeless.
[00:00:23] They want us to live in this constant state of despair, because they find us easier to control them. Keeping our republic is on the line, and it requires patriots with great passion, dedication, and eternal vigilance to preserve our freedoms.
[00:00:38] Jenny Beth Martin is the co-founder of Tea Party Patriots. She's an author, a filmmaker, and one of time magazines most influential people in the world. But the title she is most proud of, is Mark to her boy girl twins.
[00:00:52] She has been at the forefront, fighting to protect America's core principles for more than a decade. Welcome to the Jenny Beth Show. In this episode, my guest is a young conservative voice who's been making waves in the political landscape with his articulate and passionate viewpoints.
[00:01:08] He started his journey into politics at a remarkably young age, and has since become a prominent figure in the conservative movement. CJ Pearson is a political activist, commentator, and social media personality who has captured the attention of millions with his insightful commentary and bold stance on key issues.
[00:01:28] From supporting conservative values to advocating for policies that strengthen our nation, CJ's perspective is both refreshing and inspiring. We'll be diving into CJ's journey, discussing his views on the current political climate, and exploring what the future holds for the conservative movement.
[00:01:44] Now get ready for a compelling and thought-provoking discussion that you won't want to miss. CJ Pearson, thank you so much for being with me today. Thank you so much for having me, Jenny Beth.
[00:01:54] You are a young activist right now at your current age, but you've been involved in politics now for almost what ten years already. Almost a decade, you're making me feel old every year, but I got my start.
[00:02:09] And I always make sure to attribute it to her whenever I'm asked that question. You did my second grade teacher, her name was Sharon Best, and during that time it was around the 2008 presidential election.
[00:02:20] Of course, the candidates were John McCain and then Senator Barack Obama, and she wanted us to do whatever good citizen in the country at the time was doing.
[00:02:28] She wanted us to research the candidates, then at the end of that week we were going to cast our vote in a mock election. And I'm going to date myself a little bit here, but I remember watching a presidential debate, it was candy-crowly moderating.
[00:02:39] I was on the floor of my grandparents' bedroom, listening them back and forth about things like healthcare policy taxes, Iran. Things that no six or seven year old boy knows anything about, but I knew what they were talking about was really important. I wanted to learn more.
[00:02:53] After that, I digged really deep into both of their platforms, learn more about them. And I learned more about John McCain and his history of service and how he was a prisoner of war. My grandfather, he served 20 years in the military.
[00:03:06] I was surrounded by just so many symbols of his service growing up. He was in the air, respected a lot and so ultimately I went and I cast my ballot for John McCain. That election don't know if I would do that today, but I did back then.
[00:03:18] And I remember coming home and telling my grandmother who I had voted for, I said, you know, I had voted for John McCain this week. And she said, wow, CJ, you must think that you're white. Now, I had no idea what that meant or what that entailed.
[00:03:32] Of course I was again a little kid who had never heard anything about identity politics in any way whatsoever, but I was curious as to what she meant. And so it really led me down this path of self-discovery.
[00:03:45] I remember watching Fox News, MSNBC, something of which I still haven't recovered from a little bit of post-traumatic racial matter disorder. I've coined it. But I realized that the more I heard from conservatives, the more I heard about conservative values,
[00:04:01] the more I couldn't ignore the fact that those were the values of my grandparents had been still within me ever since I was a little kid. They taught me the value of a dollar they taught me to love this country.
[00:04:11] They taught me that in the United States of America if you work hard and play by the rules that you can achieve anything. And fast forward a couple of years later, I was actually in the seventh grade.
[00:04:22] And I had gotten a Kim Quartet for Christmas. This is probably the worst gift my grandparents ever got me in hindsight for them.
[00:04:28] They bought me this Kim Quartet for Christmas and Rouge Leony had gotten a little bit of hot water because he had said that President Obama didn't love American.
[00:04:38] Of course, the liberal media does what the liberal media does. They called him a racist, a bigot, all these tired classic things that they call any conservative who dares to criticize anyone of any color.
[00:04:49] And I thought it was ridiculous. I thought it was ridiculous at 12 years old. I think it's ridiculous now at 21 years old. But I turned the Kim Quartet on and I say, no, I agree with Rouge Leony.
[00:04:58] And if you think he's a racist, then you're going to have to think that I'm a racist because I think that President Obama has been an absolute failure as president.
[00:05:04] And the video went viral. I got two million views overnight and it's been history ever since and just been working super hard to elevate the voices of young people in our movement.
[00:05:15] Because I realize that if we don't fight for this country, our generation stands to have the most to lose. So it's been an honor to be in this fight and I'm super excited about what the future has to hold.
[00:05:27] You had a video that went viral when you were 12 before going viral, people go viral now like every five seconds on TikTok or something. But at that point, it was something that was fairly new.
[00:05:41] And I'm sure you had a lot of love, male and a lot of heat, male. How did you deal with that emotionally? It's like a young child. You're an older child.
[00:05:49] You know for me, I think I grew up in a home where my grandparents were very much about the ideas that if you believe in something you ought to fight for it. But also to, you know, we're all made uniquely and beautifully by God.
[00:06:04] And so when you have people in your net who are wishing you harm because you said something to hurt their feelings, those people don't know you.
[00:06:11] And so I think I took the love and saw the hate but I didn't really regard it for much because those people didn't know me.
[00:06:19] And so I think that was a really interesting, you know, period of time in my life because as you said like going viral was a thing but it wasn't really much of a thing. Like back then there was no such thing as an influencer or a content creator.
[00:06:32] I was still a vlogger, I guess, back then which no one says today. And it's just been an interesting, interesting journey and what I will say is that it honestly worked out really, really well for me.
[00:06:43] I think it made me so resilient growing up. I think, you know when I look at the sensitivities of so many people in my generation, I'm like, I was raised literally on the internet.
[00:06:52] Like where people would say the most disgusting, just wickable things about me and so it's like, you know someone says something that's a little insensitive to me now.
[00:07:00] I'm just like, who cares? You know what I think? So I think it definitely made me resilient and it made me definitely someone who realizes that if you're not pushing, if you're not getting pushed back then you're simply not pushing hard enough.
[00:07:13] What did your grandparents think when that video went viral? Well, they didn't know I recorded the video, right? So they were very shocked to see that video. And the story behind it was actually hilarious. So my grandfather loved hate-watched Sean Haney.
[00:07:25] So he would always have it playing in the background and whenever Sean would say a particular point, you know, he would pop off a little but then say, you know, Sean Haney, that guy is so dumb whenever else.
[00:07:35] But this time on Sean Haney, Sean was like, up next we have a 12 year old from a gust of Georgia with some sharp words for President Obama and he was absolutely live it.
[00:07:46] And I remember him yelling my name from upstairs and saying, CJ get up here right now. So I run upstairs and he's like, you're in to lead this video.
[00:07:54] How dare you talk about the first black president like this all these things? I said, okay, like, you know, I said what I believe this is genuinely how I feel.
[00:08:03] If you want me to delete the video I will, not thankfully, a little bit technologically challenged. So I told my deleted the video, never deleted the video.
[00:08:10] And the video stayed up, kept making them many more, you know, would go on to go viral and I've just really been able, you know, over the course of the past decade or so to build a following of more than one-and-a-half million people, young and old, who care genuinely about the future in direction of this country.
[00:08:27] Now do you work, or a contract work for, or you're an ambassador or whatever for Prager you? What, what do you do with that?
[00:08:34] Yeah, so I, you know, my relationship with Prager you started almost a year and a half ago. You know, was that the University of Alabama rule time? It was a dog from the CGA graph.
[00:08:45] You know, it was gonna get away with it with you but I had to try it. We're ready black here.
[00:08:49] I know, I know, should have worn my tide polo, but I, you know, but I, so was that the University of Alabama and, you know, I enjoyed college there.
[00:08:56] I think it was a really great college experience. There were so many people on that campus who really do love our country who are so supportive of me all the time, who would, you know, walk up to me, whether it was a function or on campus, name is A.C.J., we love your stuff.
[00:09:12] Thank you for what you're doing all those things. I didn't go to Princeton, but, you know, in hindsight, it looks like I made the better choice.
[00:09:20] So, yeah. And, you know, during my junior year it was the fall semester. There was an opportunity to open up with Prager you.
[00:09:28] And I had really felt like our country had reached a time where, you know, Reagan talks about it, where he says it's a time for choosing. Where we really have to determine which direction our nation will go.
[00:09:39] And, you know, I enjoyed being a regular college student. I didn't got and, you know, I had my fun, but I remembered why I first got involved in politics, but again, because I genuinely believe again that
[00:09:50] My generation stands to have the most to lose if we don't stand up and fight for the future of this country.
[00:09:55] And so, when this opportunity with Prager you opened up and they said, hey, we want you to join our team and, you know, I've long admired their work and have been a long time supporter of theirs.
[00:10:05] But you got to move to LA to the belly of the beast. It was definitely something I was a little hesitant about it first, but I saw it as an opportunity to do immense good in a time where there are so many negative forces trying to just brainwash and indoctrinate American-Zone people and every corner of the country.
[00:10:22] And I think that the only way that we can, you know, like push back against its indoctrination is to realize a fundamental truth that education got us into this mess and education's going to get us out of it.
[00:10:33] And so, join Prager you, got to really sharpen my chops and the belly of the beast in LA, which certainly was quite the experience. And then ultimately how the opportunity to come back home to Georgia where, I think Georgia is such an interesting situation, right?
[00:10:50] Because if you would have told me a couple years ago that my home state would have two Democrat U.S. senators, I would not have believed you, wouldn't make any sense to me.
[00:10:59] But what we're seeing right now is that you have all of these people fleeing these blue states coming to states like Georgia, but somehow some way still thinking that they should vote the same way.
[00:11:08] You know, people like President Trump, they don't know about building a wall in the southern border, I think they should build one around Atlanta. You know, and maybe that would be a little helpful.
[00:11:15] Or they just, if they would think, why did you come here? And what is it that helped make Georgia where you want to be? Exactly. Vote that way. Exactly. Your political refugee don't come to my state of Georgia and try to call a foreign-image or Georgia, Illinois, Georgia.
[00:11:29] Go back there. Yeah. Or say, I mean, not that I don't want people there, but if you want to turn it into California, you could see in California. The California has much prettier coasts. Exactly. Unless of the enemy.
[00:11:40] Unless you met it in the coast in Georgia, but California's coasts are just amazing. They're unreal. And I think that's why it's actually so unfortunate what happened in California. It is. And how progressive of just completely utterly destroyed the state. You go to California. It is so beautiful.
[00:11:58] The weather is so incredible. There are beaches. There are beautiful mountain ranges. All these things. And it's unreal. And I've always been so taken aback by just how beautiful the landscape is there. But you, as President Trump has often said, anything will goes to, and I want you
[00:12:15] film the blank. And that's exactly what's happened in California, unfortunately. And I think that if we're not vigilant, you know, the reality that we have to actually really acknowledge here is that
[00:12:25] What they're doing in California and these blue states is a dry run for what they want to do all across the country. They want to export those very policies to every single corner of this nation. And if we allow them, you know, we won't recognize America much anymore.
[00:12:39] So now that Georgia has two Democrats senators in your back in Georgia, you actually run for office. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, that was one of those things I didn't expect to do it.
[00:12:52] You know, I was, you know, fighting the good fight with Prager U was happy there, excited to be there. But again, it just goes back to why I got involved in the first place.
[00:13:01] I think, again, we need young people to have a see the table because if we don't, you know, number one, I think that oftentimes when you're telling other young people and they're hearing from older people
[00:13:12] sometimes that this is why you should love America, this is why you should be a conservative. They take it as a lecturing. But I think when I sit down from people in my, you know, peer group and imagine a nation, I say hey,
[00:13:22] either the day we deserve to have a future in this country progressive policies are not going to give it to us. And we sit there and we relate from a place of a similar standpoint. You know, it's easier for them to contextualize these issues.
[00:13:33] And so when I had the opportunity, you know, there was a special election, you know, in my hometown of Augusta, to run for office, I took it. And I was so excited that I did.
[00:13:45] You know, we were able to get through the primary and, you know, while we, you know, face some unlikely opposition, you would think that everyone would be excited to have a young person who is ambitious and, you know, and eager to serve.
[00:13:58] There are some folks in establishment who weren't too excited about our campaign. And, you know, while we fell short on the runoff, what it really showed me is that number one,
[00:14:08] not only do we have to defeat the left, but also to there are a lot of controlled opposition within our own party, within our own movement, who are just as detrimental to our cause of putting America first, putting Georgians first.
[00:14:23] And so I'm super excited to stay in the fight. I think that we need more and more young people to get into the fight because again, if we can save Georgia, we can save America. But if we lose Georgia, we lose America. It is so true.
[00:14:38] And I think that both campaigns, both the Trump and the Biden campaign realize that, and we, being in Georgia, we sense that. We see it, we see the signs, we see the organizing on both sides, both understand that Georgia is key to the White House this year.
[00:14:56] You're right. You know, I think I saw today that Commonwealth Harris is going to Atlanta for the fourth time, and the past, I think, two or three months.
[00:15:05] You know, they realize that they're in trouble and Georgia because Georgia is not as blue as they like to make it seem. But I think also too, it's like when I go out in the community, when I go to Black Barbershot,
[00:15:16] some Black Churches which I did a lot during my campaign, I didn't change my message. I didn't switch up, I'm talking points or anything like that. I just spoke about the issues that I always talked about from any other audience. And those people were excited.
[00:15:29] You know, like, you know, I think Black Americans are starting to ask the question, what if the Democrats done for us lately? What is Joe Biden done for us lately? And it's not a damn thing.
[00:15:42] And I think once he realized that, it becomes a lot easier for them to say, we deserve more. We're tired of settling for less, but we want to settle for more. And I think that the more that we as conservatives go places,
[00:15:53] that typically conservatives do not go, we will win those people over, because I think a lot of people have this idea about the Democrat or the Republican party or about conservatives overall that isn't rooted in reality,
[00:16:05] and the reason it isn't rooted in reality is they never met a conservative before. But the moment they meet them and they actually say, they ask them questions and they say why do you believe what you believe when we answer it?
[00:16:15] You know, when we give them a good answer, I think that's how we win them over. And I think if we're really going to take back our country, if we're going to take back the White House, we're going to win in November.
[00:16:23] We can't just preach the choir, we've got to do the work to grow the congregation. So it's spanned the base. It's spanned who we went to. Exactly. And I don't think it has ever been easy to do so, right?
[00:16:37] And in large part because of the fact that if you look at what the left is doing, they've ever played their hand, they've become so extremely radical. You look at them trying to trans children. You know, suburban moms don't like that. Black mothers don't like that.
[00:16:51] You know, that is a universally vial thing. You're looking at this idea of critical race theory that black people should see themselves as perpetual victims. It's just so demoralizing, you know, you're going to tell a black child that regardless of how hard they work,
[00:17:07] how hard they try, they just shouldn't because it doesn't matter because regardless of how hard they try the system, the so-called white man is going to hold them down. So why would they try? Why would they try to be president?
[00:17:19] Why would they try to be governor or be an entrepreneur if they believe? That regardless of how hard they work or how hard or how much they want it, they'll never actually be able to get it.
[00:17:31] And just, but that is the key to the left control over minority communities. It's their key to control over young people. They want us to be broke. They want us to be hopeless.
[00:17:42] They want us to live in this constant state of despair because they find us easier to control them. Well, it's easier to control. But the sad thing for the whole entire country is that you are more than likely suppressant greatness
[00:17:56] and you're suppressing the potential of people to be great because you're telling them that they can't and often you become what people think you can become. And if you think that that kids and a younger generation are capable of doing more
[00:18:12] and being better than even we are, they're going to go live up to that expectation. But if you tell them the best has already been and there's nothing better to come, what is the point? It's not very motivating. You're right.
[00:18:27] They're going to live up to the expectation you set. If you set incredibly high ones which were side by house old, ideally you're going to live up to them. But if you tell them, you don't have to try that hard. There's going to be a government safety net.
[00:18:38] There's going to be someone to catch you when you fall. Then they're never going to actually want more. And they're never going to want to break the cycle. And I think that that's exactly what we should be encouraging young people to do with all colors.
[00:18:53] It's to break cycles. Break generational curses go and achieve what you can only uniquely achieve in the greatest nation in the world. And so I think that should be our message of hope. It should be the Democrats as messages well.
[00:19:07] I don't think it will be any time soon. So we've got to carry a little bit of their weight as well. But I think that so many people, though, are starting to really open their eyes and realize that
[00:19:18] And really become privy to the game that the left is playing. And then what that game is, it's a game of suppression of hope, suppression of dreams, and pursuit of control.
[00:19:29] When you go and take that message into the black community as you were describing that you were doing how how did people respond to it? You know, really well. I think that right now in November the Democrats are going to get a reckoning unlike they've ever seen before.
[00:19:42] We're seeing record highs in terms of black support for President Trump. You know, we were seeing black men who are saying that we are tired of being occupants and tenants on the Democrat plantation. And I love to see it.
[00:19:55] And I think it's long overdue because when you look at the black community, we see a community of people that have supported Democrats almost more than 90% of the time every time. And what do we have to show for? We have inner cities that look like third world countries.
[00:20:09] We have young, single mothers who can't allow their children to play on the sidewalk because they don't know if they're going to come home or not. That is not the way to live in the United States of America. And I think black voters deserve more.
[00:20:23] And I think that we have been used in abuse for far too long by the Democrats establishment. And we've got to demand more for ourselves the only way that Democrats are really going to get it through their heads.
[00:20:35] That we are not just, you know, these people are going to just go for whatever they toss us or whatever, you know, scraps they can find is if we vote differently. And I think that again, it's never, it's never an easier to do so.
[00:20:50] Like, you know, I was on Fox News the other week and they played this video. And they were in a black barbershop and the guy, I summed it up so well. He said, under Joe Biden, we're broke, under Trump, we weren't. And I think that's the biggest thing.
[00:21:04] You know, I think this should, if this is a kitchen table issue election, we went, you know, just no reservation. Who, how were you personally under each president? Were you better with Trump as president or Biden as president? It's pretty simple.
[00:21:22] You can check all the personal issues that you have with each president just, they both have their baggage. So who served you and your family and your household better? Yeah, exactly.
[00:21:34] And I think if you look at also to what was the state of our world under these two different presidents right? You know, under, you know, President Trump, we had damn near world peace and under President Biden. We live in a world of disarray.
[00:21:47] And, you know, it's incredibly troubling to me. And I think that as a young person who, you know, at this time, you know, a lot of friends who were graduating college right now, they're stepping into the workforce. They are worried. They're anxious.
[00:21:59] Like, you know, they have no idea if a recession is knocking on the door, they have no idea if they're going to be drafted to go fight some war that we have no business being involved in.
[00:22:08] Like, that is the type of things that young people are being forced to think about in Joe Biden's America, which was never a thought. Even in the afterthought, when President Trump was in office. And it creates a lot of uncertainty.
[00:22:21] You don't know how much you're going to pay every time you go to the grocery store.
[00:22:24] So you don't know how much money to budget for your grocery's each week, which means you don't know whether you can do the extra activity for your child or the summer vacation or whatever else it might be.
[00:22:35] You don't know if the country is going to go to world, or the world is going to go to world war, not it certainly seems like war is on the brink. There's just a lot of uncertainty in that makes people very uncomfortable. Yeah, I know it does.
[00:22:50] And I think, you know, again, under President Trump, we didn't have to deal with that type of uncertainty. I think that, you know, we had record highs in the stock market. You know, we had record low, black unemployment, record low, Latino unemployment. Everyone was thriving.
[00:23:02] People, you know, didn't have to worry about going to the grocery store and having to take things out of their shopping cards because they couldn't afford it. And I think, again, it just shows the stark reality of living in Trump's America between living in Joe Biden's America.
[00:23:19] And I hope that, you know, voters keep that front-end center in their minds as they go to the polls in November. And is, you talk about younger, you're the younger generation, the gynsy generation. Would do they have hoped for the future? Or is it where are they at?
[00:23:36] You know, I think gynsy is coming back our way. And I think the reason that that is happening is because they left has literally lost their mind. You know, you have them advocating for biological men playing women's sports, which is the most insane thing.
[00:23:48] I think if you talk to even a young progressive girl on campus about this issue, she would say that's absolutely crazy to have biological men competing against them robbing them of a sport that many college athletes have dedicated their entire lives to.
[00:24:02] And for them, you know, in their accomplishment to be discarded is absolutely insane. You know, Riley gains as a great friend of mine and, you know, what we often talk about is the fact that it's unfortunate she even has to do what she does.
[00:24:15] You know, like it's unthinkable that she asked to literally fight so hard to just get to Microsoft to fall the science, right? Which is so insane because we're called science today or every single opportunity they get.
[00:24:29] But they're sitting here trying to use science to justify biological men being able to strip away women, you know, strip away earned accomplishments from women. Which I thought they were against the patriarchy, but, you know, apparently not in that case.
[00:24:45] And so I think you look at that issue. I think if you look at the issue of CRTA again where you're telling young white children that they're responsible for sins that they themselves are not allowed, you know, alive to commit. You're telling black children, they're perpetual victims.
[00:24:57] When they're reality of it is, is that no one alive today was a slave and no one alive today was a slave owner. So what are we sitting here talking about? Let's talk about the future. Let's talk about how we're going to put people in positions to win.
[00:25:09] And that's not happening from the Democrats. You just see these woke people who want to cancel everyone who doesn't carry their water. And I think that's another thing. And my generation's tired of cancel culture. You know, we just want to be frank.
[00:25:26] We want to have, you know, just common sense discussion and conversations. We want to just get to the meet of the issues without having to be worried about, you know, every other word that we say, or whether or not we respect your pronouns.
[00:25:37] All of these things are just delirious and what's so insane to me is that, how quickly it all happened. Like I remember, you know, I was in high school, I'm getting old four years ago, right? I was in the heart of the couple.
[00:25:48] So four years ago, and there were no furries. There was none of this stuff going on. And now, I talked to my little cousins and they're like, yeah, no, this Kenneth school. There's a furry and they have their little dog, dog bowls that they bring to school.
[00:26:06] And then just like this is absolutely crazy, but this is exactly what happens when we allow the inmates to run the asylum, right? And I think also to it's what happens when we become complacent as conservatives.
[00:26:17] I think for a long time, we've allowed this entire idea that we are the son of majority to really force us to muscle ourselves. When the left has taken that as a license to absolutely commit absolute terror with every institution
[00:26:33] across our country, whether it's the weaponization of our justice system, whether or not it's the biological men and women sports issue, or whether or not it's biological men now winning beauty pageants. You know, I miss the days when beauty queens and not penises, it's an odd thing that
[00:26:47] that is where we are right today, right? Crazy that we have to say this. We're living in odd times. We're living in there only getting hotter, you know, it's insane. It is. And I think one other thing that the younger generation has tired of, it's some point, we
[00:27:03] have to remember that we can agree to disagree and still get along with the things where we do agree. And maybe the only things we agree on right now is the sky can be blue and grass can be green.
[00:27:14] But we've got to find a way to get back as a society to understanding that just because someone doesn't agree with me on every single issue does not mean that I can't treat them kind as a fellow American.
[00:27:27] And the cancel culture, it happens online with social media, oftentimes that's what people think of it. But what I think that maybe people who are older than me don't understand is that people in your generation, they'll get canceled by the friends.
[00:27:46] Like their friends will just quit following them and just stop having anything to do with them. And that has happened in different ways throughout history, especially with high schoolers and middle schoolers. But it is much worse, I think, when it's happening on social media and the kids are
[00:28:07] judging themselves by how many likes they have and how many friends or followers they have. No, you're exactly right. And it's something that I'm grateful that I didn't really have to contend with as much growing up because I got certain politics so young.
[00:28:21] So you know where you're getting into when your friends with me, I'm a walk in Maghatt. So it's one of those things where thankfully I didn't have to deal with that.
[00:28:29] But when I talk to a lot of friends who did have to deal with that, who lost friends because they were supportive of Trump or because they are concerned over they didn't post a black box when BLM was burning down half of America.
[00:28:42] And they lost friends because of it, it was something that really did affect them a lot. Which is why I think it's so important for conservatives to be vocal. Because I think that oftentimes a reason that so many young people go with the flow or
[00:28:55] ride with the herd is because they believe that there's community there. And so when they see that all these leftists young people are, they're not afraid to post BLM. They're not afraid to put their pronouns in their bio but yet we're afraid to be vocal
[00:29:10] about comments and issues and common sense things. It makes us seem as if there is no one who believes what we believe. And so I think one thing that I often told college conservatives and they reach out to me and they message me is that...
[00:29:28] Have the audacity to just raise your hand. If you're an election hall and your leftist professor is saying something that you genuinely disagree with, have the courage and the audacity to raise your hand and push back because courage is infectious.
[00:29:40] If you have the ability to push back on what your professor is saying then tomorrow another person will. And the next day that other person will. And that is how we slowly take back these institutions.
[00:29:52] That's how we slowly get more young people to be more bold in their truth. And I think that's exactly what we need right now. We can't, for a long time we were silent.
[00:30:02] There are a lot of people who were silent during the pandemic and we saw what that cost us. And so I think it is time for us to move past being the solid majority.
[00:30:10] I think it's time for us to be the routing majority and do all that we can to take back our country as vocally as we need to be. And it's important to do that because if we continue down the path that we're going
[00:30:25] right now, we continue with that uncertainty. We continue with inflation. We continue with a very unstable world situation in America's standing in the world. And the all of those things plus the CRT and the woqism and the lack of actual education with much more indoctrination going on.
[00:30:45] All of this combined and even more it isn't good for our country. It's not good for where our country will wind up going if we don't stand up for where it should be going or where it can be going. No, you know you're exactly right.
[00:30:58] And I think that also to my generation deserves to live in a country as great as the one that my grandparents grew up in. And I think that the less vision for this country is anything but that.
[00:31:09] They want to refash in our country and to the very countries that people are fleeing to come make a life here. And so I think that is something we've got to be incredibly just vigilant and clear out about. I don't live in AOC's America.
[00:31:24] I don't live in AIC Pelosi's America. I don't live in Reagan's America. I don't live in Trump's America. And I think that a lot of people my age do. And I think in some ways I think that the election of Biden is a little bit bitter sweet.
[00:31:39] I think sometimes I think it was a lesson that a lot of people needed to learn. Because I think there are a lot of people who just believe that America was just on autopilot
[00:31:47] during the Trump years that America was just great for no reason or just somehow some way. I think now they're actually going to the real struggle. They're like, wait, this is what happens when we have a vegetable driving the boat who has no idea
[00:32:00] what's actually happening in any given time, much less his name. And so I think that's one of those things where we actually really, this creates an opportunity unlike ever before, which is always, I think it's so important for conservatives to seize it.
[00:32:14] We need to talk to every young person than we can. We need to talk to every black person we can. We need to talk to every single demographic of people that we previously have an order or not put resources towards and go actually do it.
[00:32:23] Because I don't think it's going to get any worse than this, you know? And I think we can allow people to forget just how bad these years have been and just how much worse it can get if Joe Biden has reelected in November. Then is exactly right.
[00:32:41] We have to go out and speak to people and make sure that they understand what's at stake and what the future can be. What are you doing to make a difference with them?
[00:32:51] Yeah, you know, so one thing that I'm super passionate about right now and then I've seen a lot of is the fact that the DNC has invested a lot of money into basically, and, you know, inflating these content creators online. These TikTokers and all these things.
[00:33:08] And basically what they're trying to do is indoctrinate all these young people online. And I think that we can either hate on that strategy or we as conservatives can figure out a way to do it better.
[00:33:17] I think, you know, some of your listeners might be familiar with the stories of like Harry Sisson and another, a Canadian Chris Malary who is literally bankrolled by the DNC.
[00:33:27] It just pump actual just completely, just garbage about, you know, and distortions about Biden as record online to young people. And just gaslight our generation. So what I'm really passionate about is how do we train up this next generation of content creators?
[00:33:42] These, this next generation of an influencer is, and how do we actually, you know, help them build up their following to counteract what the left is doing online?
[00:33:50] And it's, you know, something that's kind of, you know, I kind of feel uniquely cold to do because I start off being so young and I've been doing it for so long and may be able to see how the movements evolve and change.
[00:34:02] And it's, and I've learned a lot. And so it's kind of put me in a position where now, like as younger people are getting started, and they're starting to make content online. I can say, hey, like this is a great way for you to do this.
[00:34:12] This is a great way for you to honestly fight for your country as simply as making a video and being vocal. Because again, courage is contagious. The more young people that other young people see, you know, being bold,
[00:34:25] being vocal and saying you will no longer muzzle me, it's going to be contagious and we're going to see a revolution on like ever before. A minute ago you were talking about Biden and I want to go back to that.
[00:34:37] You were saying that people kind of became complacent when Trump was president and thought this is just sort of the way the country works. And now they see what Biden, that it's not the way that it works.
[00:34:48] One of the things that I noticed is that before Trump was elected in 2016, people were very active. And they, they, in including throughout from 2009 all the way until he was elected. So for the years of Obama's administration,
[00:35:05] they were active. They were fighting against the growth of government. The expansion of government, socialized healthcare. Then Trump got elected and a lot of them I think that okay we're done. We're done Trump can handle it from here.
[00:35:20] And we can't if we are lucky enough as a country to be able to reelect Trump. We can't do that to him again. We can't just go okay, you got it from here.
[00:35:29] We have to continue to be involved and make sure that we are advocating for his policies, making the calls to Congress, keeping those calls going, writing op-eds, writing letters to the editor, talking to our friends and family about policy that needs to pass.
[00:35:43] So the data actually can pass. So he can accomplish what he needs to be able to accomplish. No, you're exactly right. And it's been a frustration ever since I was like, even just a little kid observing this.
[00:35:54] You know, I think Republicans have always been better at being an opposition party than a governing party, unfortunately. And I think we saw it, even when we controlled all three ranges of government, you know, it was we failed to repeal Obama care.
[00:36:06] You know, like, it's a frustrating basic concern of policies that we've been running on since 2014 the first campaign I worked on, knocking on door-banging phone calls, we have still not figured out a way to pass term limits.
[00:36:16] Like, it's all of these things that people have been running on for a decade now. You know, and it still has not happened, which is, you know, beyond me, but I think, you know, you're right.
[00:36:26] Like, a lot of these efforts that are necessary in our country right now are not just like election your efforts. Like, they need to be around the clock 24, 7 every year, you know, until the issues resolved.
[00:36:38] The election issue is one of them. You know, the alarm was being sounded during the 2020 election about mail-in ballots. We were just kind of everyone was just kind of like, oh, well, let's, you know, we'll just work itself out.
[00:36:49] Well, it worked itself out and we see how it worked out. And so I think that's the thing. It's like we can't be complacent, not just the people who are apolitical and apathetic and they're just like, okay, well,
[00:37:02] it's not really matter who I vote for everything is just going to be the same. But as conservatives like you said, people who are locked in paying attention, they have even less of an excuse to be apathetic because they should realize
[00:37:12] where that apathy gets us and where that apathy has gotten us and that apathy is led us to where we are right now as a country.
[00:37:18] And if they don't know how to get involved, we can sit back and go, oh, they should have cut a wood of, but we can't change a pass.
[00:37:28] We can't do as a learn from the past. And one of the things that we have to make sure is that we're training people on how to be active when it comes to policy and how to be advocates when it comes to policy.
[00:37:38] So you're that voice online and then you're taking all that passion and love for this country that you have in turning it into action, and continuing to turn it into action because success begins success.
[00:37:53] And so we have to be able to have success and then to build on it. And when we don't learn from the mistakes or the loss, so that we can can have success again in the future.
[00:38:04] Yeah, and you know, that's one thing I, the way I like kind of phrases that we've got to figure out what it trains from influence into impact, right? Yeah, because we have so many influence.
[00:38:11] I say passion to action, but because I'm thinking of the grassroots energy and you're thinking of it from the influencer side.
[00:38:18] Yeah, but it's very much the same thing. And I think also too, it's like when you look at, you know, I was out of speaking engagement recently on a rally. It was an immigration one.
[00:38:26] And one of the speakers had something so great. He was, don't let this be where this ends for you. Right? Like you came in the rally, you got your energy out, you got to scream and shout, we got to really release a synergy that, you know,
[00:38:39] and because what's happening in our borders is disgrace, it's an an invasion that is being enabled by this administration. You have every right to be angry about it. But it shouldn't stop here. Like you should be writing your legislators. You should be following this issue.
[00:38:52] You should be demanding more after you leave here. Because I think sometimes people think that they fire off the tweet they're done or they post a video they're done or they go to a rally. They're done.
[00:39:04] It's like no, like if you're going to Trump rallies, you need to be bringing three friends with you. And also two on election day, you need to have your entire car full of people who are low-prepensity voters who may not be inclined to vote.
[00:39:16] They need to know just how important an impactful this election is going to be. And I think the thing is and you're the OG at it. So I'll leave out defer to you at it.
[00:39:25] Anyone can be an activist, right? I think any one's energy can be channeled into impactful change. They just have to see within themselves. And I think there are so many examples of it, especially now. Like you get the moms' liberty. They saw a problem.
[00:39:41] They saw what was seeping into our schools. And these are just everyday moms. You decided we're going to start an organization. We're going to organize all the mom affairs all across the country.
[00:39:49] And we're going to fight back for our children. And I think that, you know, girl dads that are watching and listening to this should be thinking the same.
[00:39:57] These people want transgender men to use the bathrooms of your daughters. They want them to play the sports with your daughters.
[00:40:04] Like that is not normal or something that you as a father of a female child should be okay with doing. And I think there's so many of these issues now where you can really just coalition build.
[00:40:16] And like really build a community with people who are just as upset, just as angry. But being angry isn't enough, right? We've got to figure out a way to translate that anger and actual action.
[00:40:28] The college campuses you have spent time on college campuses in the recent years because you just graduated four years ago. What is it like on college campuses today? You know, I think that you know what's interesting is that it depends on where you go of course. Right?
[00:40:44] You know, if you look at the state of these, you know, elite institutions right now, you know, just look at the news you see.
[00:40:51] You eat with air boats. Right. You know, it's interesting. It's probably more lucrative or better value to get a degree from ITT tech than, you know, then Princeton University these days, which by the way, IT's like what bankrupt.
[00:41:03] So I think that is a, a telling sign of really the dirt of actual intellectual diversity that we're seeing on these campuses. They are diverse and everything but ideas and beliefs like, you know, they.
[00:41:15] And it's interesting to me because, you know, oftentimes you have these elites who would talk about about UGA, they would talk about about Alabama or all these SCC schools.
[00:41:25] But we didn't allow terrorists to take over our campus. We didn't allow, you know, people to chant deaf to American our campus. What we did do is we actually had people counter protesting and outnumbering those people and said that your hate is not actually welcome on this campus.
[00:41:40] And we love America. If you're problem with that, then you can leave.
[00:41:44] And I was so proud of those videos that we saw, you know, for other was that Ole Miss where there was Alabama, whether it was at, you know, a lot of these different other schools, kind of, scattered throughout the south because it showed the courage that I think is again starting to become contagious on these campuses.
[00:41:59] But because people are just fed up with these, you know, folks like, you know, you're sitting here in America living as comfortable as can be and deciding that you just apparently love Gaza. Oh so much.
[00:42:11] Well, if you love Gaza, then go visit there. Then go study abroad there. None of these kids want to study abroad in Gaza. They want to go to a bees out. They want to go to meet canos. They want to go to, you know, all of these luxurious places in Europe.
[00:42:22] But I guarantee they don't want to go to Gaza and the, and the, and the gaze for Gaza. Let's not even get started there. It's like, you know, chickens for KFC. It's just the most insane thing in the world.
[00:42:31] But it's one of those things where it also is a reminder of how great America is the reason these pampered children feel so comfortable going out there and saying all these terrible things about America and all these great things about Gaza is because their lives are so easy.
[00:42:49] So they have to actually, you know, create problems for themselves. They have to create, you know, this victimhood mentality because it's so easy to live in America and you know, again, I wish they would just go and see for themselves how Palestinian street all of these people that they claim to care so much about it was ironic. I saw video from this past weekend pro Palestine protest in DC and there was someone holding a trans flag.
[00:43:18] And a Palestinian flag and I was just like, the math isn't mathing here. I don't know what's going on. When you were saying go to Gaza, did I, am I correct? And did I hear you're going to be going to Israel?
[00:43:31] Yeah, so I'll be in Israel later this month and it will be my second trip going. And when you do go to the first time.
[00:43:37] So the first time I went, it was pre-archa bersovent. I went last summer and it was such a beautiful experience. And you know, as a Christian, having the opportunity to walk where Jesus walked to see, you know, just so many like people of so many different religions and face and also ethnicities living together in harmony.
[00:43:57] It painted a picture of me that's very different than you see being painted by a lot of these people who were pro-Hamos.
[00:44:03] And it reminds me a lot of how the left talks about America, oftentimes those, you know, paintings horror stories about America and they'll tell these lies about America, which are completely unlike the American that I know, the American that I lived in and the American that I've experienced.
[00:44:18] I'm like, well, what are some of the areas here? You know, I think the same people that are lying about America are also lying about Israel. And I know that because I went there and so later this month I'm excited to go back and you know, and see for myself what's going on there and how things are on the ground and you know, but it's a beautiful place.
[00:44:38] And I think, you know, they deserve our full support as a country and defending themselves and their people in so.
[00:44:45] And we both were at the rally for Israel in November, shortly after the attacks on October 7th, I met people that day who were in Israel on October 7th.
[00:44:58] And I met people who's that same week or maybe the week, sometime in the month of October, people whose family members were being held hostage. Yeah. And I think that these people who are out there chanting and rallying around Hamas, it just blows my mind.
[00:45:17] I don't think that they even, they're not paying attention. They're just simply not paying attention. They're not informed and they're not trying to be informed.
[00:45:24] They have no idea. And I, you know, what I like to call is just they just have TikTok brain. You know, and they've seen these videos on TikTok and they believe that, you know,
[00:45:33] they go out there, they scream and they shout, they think they're the reincarnation of Mahama Gandhi when they're not doing anything. All they're doing is just inherently shouting about issues that you're nothing about. Also, too, they're failing to remember that there are American hostages as well. Yeah.
[00:45:47] You know, yeah. And then, you know, for some reason the media doesn't talk about much anymore Joe Biden's not talking about it, but there are Americans there. And so I think, you know, it's incredibly troubling to me to see what is happening in our college gamers'
[00:46:01] is, but it's also not surprising, right? This anti-American sentiment has been baked into them by their professors and allowed an enabled by their administrators. And so it's just simply transformed into them now, unfortunately, deciding to publicly side with a terrorist organization.
[00:46:19] It's terrible. And it's why it's part of the reason why it's so important that we are taking action and that we're making a difference as we head into November.
[00:46:28] As we close out, what is the most important advice you can give to people right now in the summer of 2024? You know, I think right now we've got to be vigilant and we've got to stay energetic and we've got to be hopeful.
[00:46:40] You know, I think the left is going to do everything they can to depress our spirits. I think we've seen it right now with this 34-count guilty verdict of President Trump. They want to lock him away.
[00:46:51] They want to lock wastey, they want to lock away as many effective conservatives as they can because they want to destroy our spirit. They want to destroy our will to fight. We don't have the luxury of laying down our swords.
[00:47:04] We don't have the luxury of being downtrodden. You know, I think this is going to be a make or break election for our country.
[00:47:12] And I've got to tell you, I care for a little bit of a selfish reason. It's because I intend to raise my children in this country and I want them to be able to raise their children.
[00:47:20] And this country that, again, is just as great as the one that my grandparents grew up in. In this election will be a key determining factor and whether or not that is still a possibility. And so, you know, that's my biggest advice. It's stay energetic.
[00:47:35] You know, and then go spread the good news. Go, I think we need to be evangelical about our ideas and our personal selection. We need to reach people who don't care. And we need to say, hey, this is why you need to care.
[00:47:49] The low-prepensity voter is going to be the key to us winning in November. And for some people, that's your uncle. That's your cousin. That's your sister. That's your best friend that you got to put every single day.
[00:48:01] Make sure they're all voting, drag into the polls and you know, take a new nice center after if that's what you need to do. But I think that's going to be really critical to us winning in November.
[00:48:10] But also to, you know, the older folks watching listening as well. Don't lose hope in the future of America there is hope to be had. But so many of folks of the folks in my generation were depending on you.
[00:48:23] Not only to fight for us but to fight alongside us. CJ, thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you for having me. The Jenny Beth Show is hosted by Jenny Beth Martin, produced by Kevin Mooney Hand,
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