Protecting Parental Rights and Childhood Innocence | Terry Schilling, American Principles Project

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: The Minnesota law that Tim Wall signed into law, it's a trans-refuge law.

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Which means this is essentially state sanction kidnapping so they'll kidnap your kid

[00:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and then they'll give them a gender transition.

[00:00:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Keeping our republic is on the line and it requires patriots with great passion,

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_01]: dedication and eternal vigilance to preserve our freedoms.

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Jenny Beth Martin is the co-founder of Tea Party Patriots.

[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_01]: She is an author, a filmmaker and one of Time Magazine's most influential people in the world.

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But the title she is most proud of is Mom to her Boy Girl Twins.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: She has been at the forefront fighting to protect America's core principles for more than a decade.

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Jenny Beth Show.

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_02]: In this episode I'm joined by Terry Schilling from the American Principles Project

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_02]: to discuss the importance of protecting parental rights and the innocence of children.

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Terry will share the shocking truth behind the transgender industry,

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: the policies that are putting our kids at risk and the legislative efforts underway to safeguard their futures.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_00]: What we're building here Jenny Beth at American Principles Project is what my donors call,

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_00]: oh this is like the NRA but for family values.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And so the same way that the NRA protects our Second Amendment rights

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: or Gun Owners of America protects our Second Amendment rights,

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: APP wants to protect parental rights and the innocence of children.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And what that means is cleaning up our schools, getting these pornographic materials out of our school libraries,

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: making sure that we have age verification online for adult websites.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_00]: We've had great success there.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: We've gotten age verification passed in 19 states now including Georgia.

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_00]: We've also been very concerned about the transgender industry.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Now a lot of people think of this as a movement or a civil rights movement.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: This is an industry. It's four and a half billion dollars and they're mutilating and sterilizing our kids more and more every single day, way too many.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_00]: There's tens of thousands of children that have gone through these gender procedures that have sterilized them or removed healthy body parts.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_00]: We've gotten 25 states to ban these procedures from minors.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And so we want to win this presidential election.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: President Trump has been very strong on this issue.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He wants to protect our kids from this stuff and he also wants to protect parents from having the government

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: weaponized against them, which we're seeing in blue states like Kamala's, California and Tim Walz's, Minnesota.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_00]: They're actually taking children away from their parents if the parents are against these gender procedures.

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But then Jenny Bet, this is one of my favorite issues because I have three daughters.

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_00]: We're protecting girls' sports.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, these guys are totally insane.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_00]: They think that men can join women's sports in their locker rooms and showers just by claiming to be women.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And we're saying no.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_00]: We've gotten 25 states to protect women's sports by keeping biological males out of that.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a redundant saying, by the way.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I need to cut that out of my lexicon.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just males.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: We're keeping males with XY chromosomes.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no such thing as a biological male.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: You're either male or female.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just duplicative.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So we're...

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people don't realize that politics in a lot of ways, Jenny Bet.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And I know that some people will disagree.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Politics in a lot of ways is upstream of culture.

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_00]: It's definitely part of culture.

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It's how we start conversations.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But when you win in politics on an issue, you have incredible momentum behind it.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And when someone thinks an issue is going to hurt them on the campaign,

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_00]: they're not going to touch it with a 10-foot pole.

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And when they think it's going to help them,

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_00]: you're going to need the jaws of life to separate them from it.

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And we've seen that with other issues from the past.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But these issues are very popular voters.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Some of them have 60% margins of support around women's sports

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and protecting kids online from adult content.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: We need to double down because the Democrats cannot moderate.

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_00]: They cannot counter these arguments.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_00]: They are stuck with them.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Kamala is copying President Trump on his economic messaging,

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_00]: on the border messaging, on the crime messaging.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't want to defund the police anymore.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: She wants to give more funding to the police.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_00]: They can't do it on the gender issue.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_00]: We saw them just this summer, Joe Biden tried to say that his administration

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_00]: doesn't support sex changes for kids.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_00]: They had to reverse that position within 24 hours

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: because of how radical the Democratic base is.

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: They're pregnant with it.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_00]: They're stuck with it.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And we need to make them pay a political price for it.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Terry, when you say that in Kamala's California and Tim Walts' Minnesota,

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_02]: those states are taking parents or children away from parents

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_02]: who don't agree to these surgeries that mutilate bodies,

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: elaborate on that.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_02]: What is happening in those states exactly?

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So to paraphrase and to summarize it,

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_00]: because this gets complicated legally,

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_00]: what they have done is they have made gender transitioning a right,

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: even for minors.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And so when in Minnesota, for example,

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: a child at school goes through a gender class

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_00]: or goes through a seated gender counselor

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_00]: and the school identifies them as transgender or having gender dysphoria,

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_00]: if they bring the parents in and the parents have any real concerns

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and want to pause or push the brakes on it,

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_00]: they will consider putting that child into protective custody.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_00]: They will remove custody from the parents through DCFS

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: or whatever the local agency is and put that child in foster care.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We saw this in California with a girl named Yalie Martinez,

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_00]: her mother, Abby Martinez,

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_00]: had her daughter taken away from her by California Family Services,

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_00]: put into foster care and Yalie ended up committing suicide.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Within two years they put her on hormone blockers,

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: cross sex hormones, they did all of this crazy stuff to her

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and changed her hormonal makeup and then she committed suicide

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: because what happens is the suicidality and the suicide rate

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: actually increases for these people.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_00]: These people need real help, they need to make sure,

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: we need to be telling these people that they weren't a mistake,

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: that they weren't born in the wrong body,

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_00]: that their bodies are perfect,

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_00]: that their mind is just telling them confusing things

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and we need to overcome those obstacles,

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: but when you tell people that they were a mistake from the beginning,

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: that is a really abusive, psychologically torturing thing

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and it ends the lives of a lot of these people.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_00]: They take away custody from parents in the state,

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: but the Minnesota law that Tim Wall signed into law,

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_00]: it's a trans-refuge law.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: What that means is that if you're in a kid in a red state

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_00]: and your parents don't want to give you a gender transition

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_00]: or it's illegal in your state to do it

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and you make your way to Minnesota,

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_00]: some gender trafficker takes you from your red state to Minnesota,

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Minnesota family agencies are prohibited from working with

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_00]: the state agencies in that red state where you're actually from.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: So when the parents petition your state to return the child,

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: they won't do it, which means this is essentially

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: state-sanctioned kidnapping, so they'll kidnap your kid

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and then they'll give them a gender transition

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and we're waiting to see on this,

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: they're using taxpayer dollars to pay for it now.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But what happens when these states start going through

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_00]: real budget crises, they're gonna then try and force

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: the parents to pay for this stuff.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the next step, that's my prediction

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: for where they're gonna go.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not happening yet, but that's not in the realm,

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_00]: not outside the realm of possibilities here.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Who's behind this?

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Do we know?

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so there is a group called WPATH

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's the World Professional Association

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: for Transgender Health and it's an NGO,

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_00]: but this is the conglomeration of all the people

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: that are making money off of this.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So you have, we actually just released a report on this,

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_00]: it's called the Transgender Industry

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and you can find it at transgenderindustry.com

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_00]: but we dug into the financials of the transgender industry.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Who's making money?

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_00]: How much money they're making?

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_00]: How much money they're making

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_00]: for a gender transition for male to female

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: or female to male?

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_00]: All of this stuff we uncovered.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like a leviathan, right?

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_00]: There's all these different tentacles.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You've got big pharmaceutical companies like ABV

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: that are making money from puberty blockers.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You have the hospital systems

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_00]: that are making money from performing these surgeries.

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You have plastic surgeons that are making money.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You have this whole ecosystem now,

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: the endocrinologists, right?

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_00]: The people that actually prescribe these hormones.

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You have all these people

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_00]: that are making tons and tons of money.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Right now it's a four and a half billion dollar a year industry

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's not all.

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: They expect, Robbie Catherine Anthony

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_00]: is the CEO of a transgender tech company.

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: We have transgender tech companies now

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_00]: and this is a company called Euphoria.LGBT

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and what they will do,

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_00]: it's one of these telemedicine companies

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_00]: where you log in and they will prescribe you

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_00]: whatever hormone treatments or whatever,

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, chemical cocktail you want,

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: they will prescribe you and deliver it to you in the mail.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Robbie Catherine Anthony did an interview,

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: she's the CEO of this company,

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_00]: she did an interview a few months ago

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_00]: or a couple years ago I think,

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: where she said, right now the industry is very small

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: but if we're able to transition all 1.6 million

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: trans identifying Americans

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_00]: we'll be at over $200 billion a year.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: That's larger than the entire film industry.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? So think about that.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_00]: This is, right now, 4.5 billion,

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: that's a lot of money actually

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and they're reinvesting the profits from that

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_00]: into PR campaigns, lobbying, government affairs,

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: all of that stuff.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So this isn't, you know,

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Jenny, I'm just so cynical now,

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I essentially look at everything now in America

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: as an industry.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe the narratives

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: on the legacy media anymore.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I just look at like, who's making money here?

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_00]: What are the financial interest here?

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot of money to be made here.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_00]: These surgeries, for example,

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_00]: they cost upwards of $600,000 for a female

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_00]: to try and become a male.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? And the surgeries are gruesome,

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_00]: their bodies are mutilated,

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_00]: even their arms and their thighs get mutilated

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_00]: because of the type of stuff that they have to do.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Males, it's actually, you know,

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_00]: this is a movement about gender equality, right?

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_00]: They, it costs more for a female to try to become a male

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: than it does for a male to try to become a female.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? It's around $400,000 to some thousand

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_00]: dollars for a male to try to become a female.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And so over $600,000 for a female to try to become a male.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_00]: This is insane.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It's absolutely devastating.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: We can't afford it.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Where the hell are these people getting this money?

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? They can't have,

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_00]: this stuff didn't explode, Jenny Beth,

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_00]: until Obama through HHS said that discrimination

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_00]: on the basis of gender identity was unlawful

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_00]: under civil rights law.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Once the government got involved,

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_00]: once the insurance companies were forced to cover it

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and taxpayers were forced to cover it,

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_00]: no one was getting it because they couldn't afford

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_00]: $600,000 to do a gender transition.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But now that no one has to pay for it besides us

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_00]: or the people are so far,

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_00]: that they're paying for it or so far removed for it,

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: that's where this thing is exploding.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So you can expect,

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and there's a whole pipeline, right?

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not just the healthcare industry.

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the schools.

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: There's the schools.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: There's the cartoons now.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a whole industry now.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't delve into the media apparatus

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and the propaganda campaigns in a previous report

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_00]: called The Transgender Leviathan,

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: but I'm sorry for ranting.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: That was a long rant,

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: but it's so bad.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_00]: It's so bad.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: The transgender industry is so bad.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_00]: They're sterilizing and mutilating our children,

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_00]: and our children are our future.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So they're sterilizing our future.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That's how we have to look at this

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: and that's why it's so bad.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It's cruel and it's evil

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: because they're hurting children who don't...

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: who look to adults to help them stay safe.

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_02]: And instead, these adults are putting them in harm's way,

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_02]: not just the immediate future,

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_02]: but putting them in harm's way for the rest of their lives

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: and making them dependent on medication and drugs

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_02]: for the rest of their lives.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just wrong.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think history will look kindly

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_02]: on this industry at all.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And in fact, this issue is a lot different than abortion

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_00]: because the victims of abortion don't get to speak.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Their lives are snuffed out.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Their voices are ignored.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: They're flushed down the toilet, essentially.

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But these transgender kids have voices

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and they're starting to speak out.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a whole rise of what's become detransitioners

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and these are kids.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And some of them are actually adults

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: which really speaks to this.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: You're prefrontal cortex is fully developed

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_00]: when you're adult and these people are starting to regret it.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But we're going to have malpractice lawsuits

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_00]: that I think ultimately will bankrupt this industry

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: and make it go the way of lobotomies.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That's ultimately...

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I actually think lobotomies are probably less harmful

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: to people than sex change procedures.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_00]: These six...

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And I say that knowing full well how horrific

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_00]: these sex change procedures are,

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: especially giving them to children.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Right. They're just absolutely horrible.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_02]: In the seats where you...

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I think you said 25 seats where you've made it illegal

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_02]: to do this to children.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_02]: You've helped make that happen with the legislatures.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Are there any seats where you've tried to make this happen

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_02]: and it hasn't happened yet?

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And if so, what are the objections?

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Why are people not supportive of such legislation?

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_00]: We've overcome most of the objections

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_00]: and we're kind of nearing max capacity here

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: based on which states have a trifecta of control.

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_00]: There are some Democrats that we're seeing

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: that are getting on board with fighting this

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and opposing it.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Sean Teary, they...

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: from Texas,

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_00]: she was kicked out of the Democratic Party

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_00]: for voting against gender transition reminders

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and to ban that there.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But basically the remaining two arguments

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_00]: are essentially this isn't a priority,

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_00]: this isn't the role of government.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is absolutely terrible.

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a terrible argument.

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Government's meant to protect the vulnerable.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You form a government, not in my words,

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_00]: but in our founding fathers' words,

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: the purpose of government,

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: you form a government to secure your rights

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and you secure them from bad,

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_00]: evil people that will take advantage of you.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what you do.

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't form a government

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: to protect yourself from government.

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't make sense.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_00]: You secure your rights through your government

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and government should be smaller.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_00]: It should be more limited,

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_00]: but you need a government to pass laws

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_00]: to make sure that these predatory industries

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_00]: aren't able to take advantage of children

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and children are most vulnerable

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_00]: and parents by the way are vulnerable to this.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Because these gender activists

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and these gender industry stooges,

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: they come in and they scare

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_00]: the bejesus out of these parents.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_00]: They tell them that their child's life is in danger

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: if they don't start affirming their new gender identity

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_00]: and start transitioning them.

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what they tell them.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the same thing with leukemia

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and giving people chemotherapy.

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Parents make tough decisions

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_00]: that cause a lot of pain to their children

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_00]: because they think it's what's best for them.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: They're told by experts and doctors

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_00]: that this is necessary pain

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_00]: in order to overcome this illness.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And so that's that.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the second thing

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: that's very treacherous that I tell people

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_00]: is they say that parents

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_00]: should be the ones making these decisions.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Parents don't have a right

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_00]: to sexually abuse their children.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So they definitely don't have a right

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_00]: to sexually mutilate their children.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Parents actually should be protected

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_00]: from having this as an option

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_00]: put before them in a very coercive option.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: This is never, it's not usually,

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, there are some very mentally ill mothers out there

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and fathers that will actually want to do this

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_00]: because they don't view it as harmful.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But most of these parents

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_00]: are being coerced into this.

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's just as unfair.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not, you know, it's the parents aren't, you know,

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_00]: freely signing up to do this to their children.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: They are being convinced that their child's life was on the line

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and that if they don't do it

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_00]: that their child will commit suicide,

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_00]: which is such a preposterous argument.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: If you just scratch the surface a little bit,

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: you see through it,

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: but these parents just get so scared

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_00]: because they love their children so much.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_00]: These guys have weaponized the love

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: that parents have for their children

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: where they're willing to make super tough decisions

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_00]: that could cause pain and harm to their child

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: in the short term for long-term benefits.

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And so parental rights, you know,

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_00]: parents don't have a right to sexually abuse their children

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: so they definitely don't have a right to sexually mutilate them

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and they should be protected

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_00]: from having this choice thrust upon them as well.

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, is there any federal legislation

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_02]: that has been introduced,

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: obviously with the divided Congress right now

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_02]: and Biden in the White House,

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_02]: it wouldn't pass into law,

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_02]: but is anyone advocating this at a federal level?

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a...

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: My two favorite guys are Roger Marshall in the Senate.

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_00]: He has a bill called

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_00]: The Stop Experimentation on Children Act,

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_00]: which would ban these procedures outright.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Doug LaMolfa also has legislation

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_00]: that would ban this as well

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_00]: and we're working with both of their teams.

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_00]: They've been the ones that have really stood out on this.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: There's lots of good leaders on this

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and the political support for protecting children

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: from the gender industry has grown immensely over the years

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_00]: and we're going to work with everyone,

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: but these are the two pieces of legislation,

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_00]: the leaders that we've really enjoyed working with the most.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_00]: They've showed the most leadership

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_00]: and the most willingness to make this a serious issue for them.

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_00]: But also, Jenny Beth,

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: like President Trump can do a lot if we get him into office.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he can actually sign executive orders.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_00]: He can defund this from the Obamacare exchanges.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He can ban hospitals that receive taxpayer funding

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_00]: from providing these, right?

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: We need to start using the left's game against them, right?

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: They're doing it to Catholic hospitals right now.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're a Catholic hospital that receives

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_00]: any taxpayer funding at all

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_00]: and you refuse to do abortions or gender transitions for minors,

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: you're at risk of losing your federal funding.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_00]: We need to turn this on its head.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not how this stuff is meant to work.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: We need to go on offense

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: and anyone that's causing harm to minors especially,

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_00]: we need to defund them of all federal tollers.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think that executive power,

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_02]: executive orders, using the power for executive orders

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_02]: is something that can be done.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_02]: We need laws to prevent it

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_02]: because what you don't need and what I think

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_02]: is causing great harm in our country right now

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_02]: is you have one president who comes in,

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_02]: they sign a whole bunch of executive orders on day one

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and then you have another president who comes in

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_02]: who undoes that and does something else.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And if we had laws, it would prevent that.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_02]: If you have a law that makes it illegal,

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_02]: the executive orders can't...

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have that chaotic swing from president to president

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_02]: which I think is very harmful for our country.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_02]: We have to make sure that we're educating people

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: about this kind of issue which you are doing.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It's extremely well

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_02]: so that we can get legislators who will pass the law

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and just make it illegal, period.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And then it takes it away from the executive branch

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_02]: from one administration to another.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I completely agree.

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is exactly why American Principles Project

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_00]: engages so much in elections.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So when politicians know that there's a political action committee

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: that is building up a war chest of millions of dollars

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_00]: that can help support them and run campaign ads on this stuff,

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_00]: once people start paying a political price

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_00]: for gender transitions for minors,

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_00]: that's when you're going to start to see the bottom fallout.

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_00]: If we win this next presidential election

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and President Trump really makes the gender transitions

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_00]: in protecting children from them a big deal

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_00]: and women's sports a big deal,

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_00]: you're going to start to see Democrats go crazy against each other

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and start to infight.

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: They'll start blaming the LGB will start going to war with the T

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_00]: which is absolutely correct.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_00]: LGB, the bisexual is absolutely at odds with transgenderism

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: which says that there is no binary.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But we need to get them infighting.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And once you get them infighting,

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_00]: sorry, you get them infighting by winning elections on their issues

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and causing division, they'll start blaming the T part of that

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and then they'll drop all of this garbage

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and they'll give a pass to Democrats to join the other side.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_00]: We've got to start winning elections

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: and until we actually start winning elections on this

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_00]: you're not going to see any legislation pass.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So we need to win more elections,

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: get this more in the mainstream.

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Candidates, not just APP and super PACs like us,

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: candidates absolutely need to start running their own campaign ads on this

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: and using this on the stump.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you, Jenny Bethe, the water's warm.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Even suburban women, we did focus groups all across the country.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_00]: In Atlanta, we sat down with suburban women,

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_00]: 11 out of the 12 of them were against gender transitions for minors.

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_00]: 11 out of the 12, right?

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a huge opening for us. No one supports this stuff.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: They might get on a pole when they're talking to a stranger on the phone.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_00]: You'll probably have an inflated number on there.

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But no one supports it.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, like my Democratic friends,

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_00]: when we were working on Religious Liberty,

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_00]: they were telling me, why are you working on wedding cakes?

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_00]: No one cares about wedding cakes and artists and florists.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_00]: You should stop this gender stuff with kids.

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: This is crazy.

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_00]: My ideas on fighting the gender ideology stuff came from Democrats

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and some of them were gay.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so like I don't know what to say,

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_00]: like the water's warm guys start running campaign ads,

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_00]: start punching your opponent on it.

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a very soft spot for them.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a huge weakness and a huge blind spot

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: for the entire Democratic Party.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and it shouldn't be.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_02]: It just shouldn't be.

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_02]: This should be a really, it should just be a no-brainer.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_02]: This harms kids, period.

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And there are some very bad people making a lot of money off of it.

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_02]: But at the end of the day, it harms kids

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_02]: and it harms kids for the rest of their lives.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And that is not something that any adult should want to happen

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_02]: to children, period.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_02]: If you're an adult and you want to go do something to your body,

[00:22:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't encourage this kind of action on your body.

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: But if that's something that you choose to do,

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_02]: at least you can understand the consequences

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and you are an adult.

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_02]: But a child who can't even buy a pack of cigarettes

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_02]: or buy alcohol,

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_02]: allowing them to do something that irreversibly changes their body,

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_02]: it's just wrong.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It shouldn't be a Republican issue versus Democrats.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It should just be we're Americans

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and also we're human beings

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and we don't want to see this happen to children in our species.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: No, right.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And to be clear, Democrats are like,

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: if they get into Congress,

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_00]: they would repeal all of the state laws

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: through the federal government

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: that are protecting kids from this stuff.

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I would rather, I don't want anyone smoking.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Smoking's bad. It's kind of cool, but it's bad.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It's really bad for you.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But I would rather kids be able to smoke

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_00]: than get gender transitions.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_00]: At least they can still have a family down the road.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_00]: They might die a little bit earlier,

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: but at least they'll be able to have a family.

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_00]: They'll have memories at Christmas.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_00]: They'll have memories and a community of people

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_00]: that love them and support them

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: that they then learn how to love.

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_00]: But if we're talking in orders of magnitude here,

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_00]: we should probably ban sex changes for kids

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: before we ban cigarettes for kids.

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm against cigarettes for kids.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I like the age being 21 years old,

[00:23:52] [SPEAKER_00]: but this is just insane.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And these guys, if we can't protect children

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_00]: from gender transitions,

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_00]: what can we protect them from?

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_00]: If parents can't say no to giving their kid a sex change,

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: what are they allowed to say no to?

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_00]: McDonald's?

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Candy after midnight?

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_00]: R-rated movies?

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_00]: What rights do parents actually have

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_00]: if they can't say no, you're not getting a sex change?

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right. That's exactly right.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that the voters,

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Democrat voters and Republican voters,

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_02]: like you just said from the focus group you did,

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_02]: it doesn't matter which side of the political aisle you're on.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Americans understand this is harmful,

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_02]: but the party leadership

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_02]: and the Democratic Party leadership

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: has decided this is going to be one of those things

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_02]: that's most important to them to defend.

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's really indefensible.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm very glad you're working so hard on it.

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And I encourage people, when they think about going to vote

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_02]: in the coming days and weeks,

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_02]: that you're voting for people who are going to protect our kids,

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_02]: not harm them.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's exactly right.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And my thing is,

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the voters will do the right thing.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_00]: They just need the leaders to talk to them

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: and make sure that they understand the contrast.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot that we're doing

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: to make sure the voters know what's at stake,

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: but it just has so much more weight

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_00]: coming from the candidates themselves.

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And so, Jenny Beth, I know you're going to join me in this,

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: but I'm telling every candidate that I meet,

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_00]: even if they're in Congress or out of Congress

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: or running for Congress or Senate or whatever,

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_00]: if you're running for office,

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: you need to make sure that you're making your opponent pay a price

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_00]: for their extremism on this stuff.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: They'll deny it, but you got the receipts.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_00]: They all support it. They have to support it.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_00]: They might not actually deny it.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And in fact, I don't know if they can get away with denying it

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_00]: because they'll lose their base.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So you win, it's a win-win.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Either they deny it and they lose their base

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and you win or they go on the,

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, double down in their support of it

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: and then you win over the swing voters.

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a win-win, bring it up,

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_00]: don't back down, punch them twice as hard.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Very good.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Terry, is there anything else that we should let the audience know

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_02]: that you're working on?

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: We've got a whole, you know, a turnout operation.

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_00]: We're doing digital ads right now.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Our ads are going to be seen tens of millions of times.

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And if we raise enough money,

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_00]: they'll be seen over 100 million times all the way through.

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That's how we're sending out millions of text messages.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_00]: We're primarily focused, Janie Beth, on the persuasion effort.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's not, you know, I think to get out the vote effort

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: is so important.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It's, I think, ultimately how we're going to win this thing.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But we're filling a gap that not a lot of people are filling,

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_00]: which is the persuasion effort.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think you guys do some great work as well.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think you're even involved in some of the persuasion efforts as well.

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, we're primarily a persuasion operation

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and we're going after those swing voters,

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: those soft Democrats and independents

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_00]: on all the extremism against the American family and our children.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and we really appreciate that.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's part of the reason why I wanted to interview you for the podcast

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_02]: because our 527 Super PAC Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_02]: is working on getting out the vote

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_02]: and we want the people who are talking to their friends and family

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_02]: and talking to voters to be equipped with the kind of messaging

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and the persuasive messaging

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and information and research that you've done

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_02]: so that they can incorporate that when they're having conversations,

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_02]: especially with undecided voters.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the beauty of campaign ads, right?

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Is campaign ads force you to make a very short and quick

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and hard-hitting argument within 30 seconds.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what we try to really specialize in.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Very good.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, thank you so much for joining me today

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