Jenny Beth sits down with old friends and conservative warriors, former Members of Congress Michele Bachmann, Louie Gohmert, and Steve King.
[00:00:00] When I arrived in Congress, the National debt was $6 trillion. Now it's 34 and climbing. And we actually talked about the way we said the ball three, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I had a six trillion and all six when I came in.
[00:00:13] Well, that's because I held the line for three years. Wow, thank you Steve King! Why would you speak her of the house? Keeping our republic is on the line, and it requires patriots with great passion, dedication, and eternal vigilance to preserve our freedoms.
[00:00:28] Jenny Beth Martin is the co-founder of Tea Party Patriots. She's an author, a filmmaker, and one of time magazines most influential people in the world. But the title she is most proud of is Ma, to her boy girl twins.
[00:00:42] She has been at the forefront, fighting to protect America's core principles for more than a decade. Welcome to the Jenny Beth Show! In the previous three episodes, you heard from the three most reliable members of Congress at the beginning of the modern day Tea Party movement.
[00:00:59] In celebration of 15 years, my team and I wanted to bring them all together to reminisce on the battles we fought and to thank them for the incredible service each of them dedicated to our country. It was so great having them all in the same place.
[00:01:13] Now please welcome once again the Honorable Michelle Bachman, Louis Gomer, and Steve King. Michelle, Steve and Louis, thank you so much for joining me today and thank you for everything that you have done for our country.
[00:01:27] You helped set the stage for the fact that we now actually have a true conservative who is the speaker of the house. And you taught, you helped teach the Tea Party movement about how Congress works and you champion freedom in your champion liberty.
[00:01:44] And I just want to talk to you a bit about those things and some of what we did in the past. But right now, thinking about where Congress is right now today, when Mike Johnson is speaker of the house.
[00:01:57] What are your thoughts on that verse is when you are in Congress and the speakers of the house you had? Don't be shy. Louis, you go. Okay. Well, I was thrilled. I know since 1923, when January 23, when the election for speaker went to non-balance without getting anybody
[00:02:23] getting majority that we had the same situation that occurred in back then, all power had accumulated or been accumulated by the speaker. I'll speak about all power. Basically, you couldn't get a bill out into committee out of committee onto the floor without the speakers permission.
[00:02:44] You couldn't get any position. Yeah, there's a steering committee but who the speaker wants for different places, different committees, different chairs. That's who gets in there. And back then, in 1923, the speaker had all power. So I think he's around 16 or 18 said,
[00:03:02] we're not vote for you till you give back power to the committees, to the individual members, the way the constitution intended. And after the eighth ballot, the speaker agreed to give back to him that power. And so one on the ninth ballot.
[00:03:19] Well, 100 years interceding, that power has been accumulated. We thought it was all accumulated at the speaker until Nancy Pelosi became speaker and we found out, gee, there was more power she was able to take.
[00:03:35] So it needed to happen that a speaker would agree to give up power so that members had power. Committees had power that they didn't have to go begging the speaker to take up a building committee. But that's where we've been.
[00:03:52] And those courageous folks that stood up last year and said, no, you're going to have to give back power or we're not going to ever let you be speaker. So they got some power to all back. I got some rules changes.
[00:04:09] But I know personally, it takes a lot of courage to stand up like that. You got three people that have stood up and know what it is.
[00:04:21] And as my former pastor used to say, you know you're out front leading when people are turning and start shooting at you. And then so we've all experienced. I'm being shot at it.
[00:04:32] So anyway, I was delighted to see that we had a lot of stand up people more than we've had since I've been there. So it's a good thing for the Republic. Well, in my view, I look back at the speakers that I served under.
[00:04:50] And Danny Hashtard was the easiest one for me to do business with. And it was just it seemed to flow pretty well. We could do business when we got to John Bainer. John Bainer was undercutting conservatives, especially me. When we came across that 2000 in Tann election,
[00:05:04] he just would not allow us to go forward and just iran repeal Obamacare, for example. He was dead certain that Steve King would never chair the immigration committee, which had been promised to me right up until the minutes before we gavled in.
[00:05:17] And he changed their deal on that. But we've done a done battle with John Bainer Paul Ryan, a better personal relationship. But a lot of the same results that John Bainer was cutting deals with Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats in undercutting conservatives.
[00:05:31] And while he was doing that, Eric Hunter was the majority leader. And his chief of staff would host a meeting for the Republic and Chief of Staff once a week.
[00:05:39] My chief came back and said, Oh, what I heard today from Counter-Stief of Staff is they love to defeat conservatives. And so that gives you the flavor that was inside Bainer and Eric Hunter. And it flowed over into the Prodigy and away in Paul Ryan.
[00:05:54] And then Ryan, you did the same things. And when we got into Kevin McCarthy, he invited all the worst characteristics that I had seen. And on top of that, he's a center of gravity for himself.
[00:06:06] And he measured everything on how it affected him in his career and his aspirations to become Speaker of the House and cut deals with Nancy Pelosi and sold a sound over and over again. And they ran out of patience with him. So I'm glad we're in this place.
[00:06:19] And when the motion came to vacate the chair and thanks to Matt Gates for taking the leadership on that, somebody needed to do it if he wasn't there, maybe nobody would. But when that went up and on the fourth of October, I don't want the motion came up.
[00:06:34] The fourth of October, I offered Mike Johnson's name then because I thought we'd get to that place where if you're going to vote for Speaker, you're voting for your dictator. And if you have five people that hate you, you're never going to be Speaker.
[00:06:46] So Mike Johnson always was a guy that held conservative principles, balanced bulls spectrum, conservative principles about he didn't alienate people. He listened to people, he voiced himself in a modest way.
[00:06:57] He voted a reliable way and I think that he was the best choice that they could have pulled out of that conference. And it took a while to get there. But I'm happy we're having for a speaker now and he's had to make some tough decisions.
[00:07:08] I think that I've said to the, I'll say the Freedom Caucus members and other conservatives in there that said from the beginning, Mike Johnson is not going to go pick a fight. And he's not going to run to the fight.
[00:07:18] You have to pick the fight and then you have to bring the fight to Mike. But he'll be on your side when he can be and we're a lot better off. We're starting to clean up the mess has been created over those previous three speakers.
[00:07:28] Well, and he certainly was on their side and blocking the open border bell from the Senate. Yes. So, but they were the ones who had been that especially Chip Roy and the House Freedom Caucus have been so
[00:07:42] so adamant that we had to have a bill that actually secured, secured the border. So they were picking the fight. I know what you did. And bringing Mike into a brief speaker Johnson into it just just the way we analyzed it.
[00:07:56] And in this border by the way, when they lost the vote on repealing, right? Were they on a, I'm teaching my arcus. That's stunning to me.
[00:08:05] To prop out somebody to analyze the constitution that high crimes of misdemeanors didn't take place when you're bringing millions of people into the United States. Willfully in violation of existing law. That's way more than enough to bring forward the impeachment.
[00:08:18] That disappoints me, but I think they'll get it fixed. And Michelle, what do you think about especially about the speaker and the changes in in the House Conference versus when you were there?
[00:08:30] I think it's age old, but our government is meant to represent the interests of the people. And I think people were very frustrated because of the open border because of the out of control spending. And they saw nothing was changing and there's an old adage.
[00:08:46] Nothing changes unless something changes. And so what we saw with something changed. I actually think Mike Johnson is the right guy, right time, right job. He has the right demeanor, I think he is a genuine authentic conservative and the conservatives know that.
[00:09:05] But also he's he hasn't he's not a threatening personality to the establishment Republicans. He really is just that perfect blend for this moment because we're at a time right now with the Democrat president and a Democrat Senate.
[00:09:19] And Mike Johnson has the smallest majority in the American history and the House of Representatives. He has a one vote margin. Somebody gets sick if somebody dies. Here we are in a constitutional crisis and effect. So I think he is the right guy for this moment.
[00:09:36] And I think he is steering the ship so that hopefully by November and those results after November, we can see a real sea change in the United States again, nothing changes unless something changes.
[00:09:50] And so that's why people are needed to make sure that they vote this fall for change. So we don't continue with an open border and out of control spending. This has got to change. It really must. Yeah.
[00:10:04] And the problems that we are seeing right now, there were some then we ever even could imagine in 2008 when we saw tarp pass that was horrible. And then 2009 was stimulus was even worse and then Obamacare.
[00:10:19] But what we're seeing right now, the spending is more than any of us. Well, every 90 days spending adding another trillion dollars to the national debt. I mean, we remember when a trillion dollars was real money.
[00:10:34] This is, this is we can't do this because math wins at the end of the day, math wins. When I arrived in Congress, the national debt was six trillion dollars. Now it's 34 in climbing. And we actually don't want to worry about three right?
[00:10:48] Yeah, we'll do that in three. I got six trillion and almost six when I came in. Well, that's because I held a line for three years. Well, thank you Steve. Why would you speak her the house? What?
[00:11:00] But from six trillion then, well, if we're accumulating six trillion in debt every 18 months right now, if it's, if it's. We can't do that. We can't do it because there's we are the brokeest nation in American history, not American history. World history.
[00:11:17] There's never been a nation more broke than the United States of America just to get back to zero. We have to pay back $34 trillion. It's a, it's a, it's an amount of money we've never seen before. No nation has ever paid back that money.
[00:11:34] And we keep going on like nothing's wrong. Like there's some money tree in the backyard. We shake and everything will be just fine. It won't be fine. It will mean the destruction in the United States and the result, the destruction of our children's future. That's what's happening.
[00:11:49] And then when you don't have America and the values that America stands for, then what do you have? Whose values will we be and what will America be? Will we look more like communist China or will we look more like America that we remembered 50 years ago?
[00:12:04] It's a real issue. It's a real issue. We choose life or will you, we choose death for this country. I can tell you where this started to when what I came in in that year, that 2003, that was the last balanced budget we've had in this country. Oh, three.
[00:12:18] Yes. It was the old two to old three budget and so the first budget that I weighed in on would be the fiscal old four budget and they had just blown that budget.
[00:12:30] And I went to the budget chairman Jim Nassau who was from Iowa and I said, Jim, where's my balance budget? You had a balanced budget from 98 until 2003. Where's my balance budget? Where at war in Afghanistan preparing it to go into war in Iraq. War in Afghanistan.
[00:12:46] And all of the safety stuff we had to do to make sure that no way he's sabotaging any of our infrastructure here in the United States. And so we have to do all of that.
[00:12:54] We can't balance a budget and I said, the American people will tighten their belts. But if we don't balance the budget now, we'll have, I use these words. We'll have the devil's own time ever balancing it again. And look, we're $28 trillion dollars be on that point.
[00:13:08] When I had that discussion with Jim Nassau, now they didn't even talk about balancing the budget. Oh no, no, no, that's so 2006. Yeah. Right. And actually 2006, I can recall discussions, Democrats were saying, you know, we should have balanced the budget. We've been in 2004.
[00:13:28] In January, well, I got elected in November of four. And so in 06 though, it looked like the deficit was going to be about $160 billion. And the Democrats were saying, if you put us in charge of well balanced the budget, of course,
[00:13:47] they were going to do it by raising the tax. And anyway, it ended up being a little more than that year. But you go to the first year of President Obama, President Bush had just gotten $700 billion to bail out Wall Street.
[00:14:07] And then we had 900 billion that President Obama asked for to get the economy going. Simulus, Bill. And we ended up with between 1.5, 1.6 trillion deficit that year. That had never happened before. Yeah. Well, the Democrats did win the majority in November of 06.
[00:14:33] And they just started spending, but nothing like the spending when Democrats had Obama in the White House and Pelosi and Harry Reid. And they blew the top off of it. And wouldn't you love to go back to, you know, 200 billion deficit in one year instead
[00:14:53] of this outrageous amount? And you and I've been in Israel. And one time, yeah, I was saying, what is your GDP to our debt to GDP ratio? Yeah. Yeah. And he was shocked. Yeah. No idea. Because that's a reality.
[00:15:16] It's like, I mean, if you've got your home or if you've got your business, you're paying that debt back. Yeah. And that's what a lot of people don't know Jenny Beth is that Congress never thinks that we have to pay this debt back. Right?
[00:15:29] I mean, it is it's gone completely over their heads. Even taxes. It's like, well, whatever we're bringing taxes, who cares? We'll just keep bringing more money. We're going to keep the party going. That is the delusional nature of what's going on in DC.
[00:15:43] It's beyond what any, this has never happened in any other nation at this level. And it's the bigger they are, the harder they fall. And we don't want to be here gloom and doing.
[00:15:54] But it's like, you know, we've got to take some really harsh actions at this point to not continue to go down this road if we want to future. However bad it is to in the house, it's worse than the Senate. They have zero sense of over spending money.
[00:16:10] Yeah, there's none. It doesn't necessarily fit all. Yeah. And maybe it's, I don't know, maybe it's because there are about another 20 years older than that. Well, the food is that there's an open border. But as expensive as wars are, immigration is almost as expensive.
[00:16:25] Immigration is extremely expensive when you're busy giving out free phones and you're giving out pre-charge credit cards. And you've got giving people health care and housing and food and all the rest. This is extremely expensive. And so we're all paying for it.
[00:16:45] And the party is going to come to a crashing halt if we don't wake up and get a brain. And we absolutely have to do that. I think it's part of the reason why the house freedom cock is fought so hard in January of 2023.
[00:16:58] And then again, once the speaker, once McCarthy was removed, fighting so hard to find someone who would be willing to fight. And they really want speaker Johnson to fight. And I don't think they've thought about it the way that you've pointed out to you.
[00:17:15] They have to fight and he'll help back them up. But, and they've got to just surrounding with support on a kind of conservative agenda. And I think it's through this year and elect maybe expand their majority. They'll have more leverage and there'll be more opportunity.
[00:17:32] We really need to elect a president with a mandate. I actually, well, all the work that can be done in the house and the Senate. If you have a president with a mandate that says, Benished the wall lay out a plan to get the budget balanced.
[00:17:42] It is out of these engagements. He's forward engagements. Save that money. But the border has got to be secured. And it's worse than war because immigration is one of those things that if you make a mistake on immigration and you can't undo that. No.
[00:17:56] It just changed his position. It's a different position. And in the 1924, they froze the immigration coming into the United States because they believed that that there was such an overload of people that the culture would get. It was Calvin Cooler. Yeah, I was going to tell you.
[00:18:10] He said we had so much immigration that we had to have a pause. We had to take a pause so that people could have time to assimilate. Understand what it is to be an American, understand American culture and history and teach their children.
[00:18:25] And so we took a pause for a long, long time on immigration until Ted Kennedy came along in 1965 and turned the tables upside down and preferred non-Europeans. If anyone was racist, it was Ted Kennedy because he decidedly preferred that we would no
[00:18:43] longer have Europeans coming into the country. And he began this thinking where he was pitting people with different skin tones against themselves. Nobody thought to do that. This was a bizarre thing and he's been, what he put into place has been dividing us unfortunately ever since.
[00:19:03] And that's not the kind of nation we are. We are united nation. That's when we're strong. And now we have a series of divisions. And Gene Brathon, the money, Rushlin Boa, I do miss the guy. Me too.
[00:19:19] He was saying on the air, you know, they're just print money like crazy. I text or emailing, he was amazing. He could read email while he was talking and respond. But and told him about being the Fed at a meeting and I asked one of the guys there
[00:19:40] I said, how much more money are we printing now than we did say 15, 10, 15, 20 years ago he said not that much different. I said, but there's so much more money in the system. And he said, and I quote, oh, we couldn't possibly print all the money we are creating.
[00:20:01] Then even by the time to print it anymore, you just add digits to the system. And that can't go on forever. It's called IOUs. Yeah. It's called IOUs. Well, that's what's in the so security. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
[00:20:18] The bonds that they place in the filing cabinet and Parker's progress Virginia. Thanks to Senator Bird, they were going to have a lot box for the social security account. They'd like to convince us that everybody has their own shoe box.
[00:20:28] And when you pay social security, put the money in for it. Then you get to take it out. So I chase that now. And I ended up with a sample amount out of there that they have to keep a paper record of the so security trust fund.
[00:20:39] And that's bonds that they put in a filing cabinet just to copy copy paper goes in a filing cabinet and Parker's bird west Virginia. I'd want for 3.54 billion dollars. It was just a copy of it. But that's just another one.
[00:20:50] Well, it's been cruel to senior people who depend on that money. Social security and Medicare how cruel to not have money there? Because if you go to a vault and everyone thinks there's a vault with all the money they
[00:21:03] paid in their whole life, and it's all sitting in there for them, the dirty little secret is that Congress raided that money every time you paid in. Congress spent that money. So you open up that door to social security in Medicare, there's no money in there.
[00:21:19] Moves and feathers fly out. There's nothing in that vault. That should get everybody's attention. Well, I wondered how long ago did it start? Did they start it spending the social security trust money as part of the general fund and just put now we use it in there?
[00:21:38] I don't remember anything. But it turns out that once Roosevelt got that past when the trust, when the Social Security money started going in one door, it was going out the other. It was very good. It was fun. Yeah, they would put markers, you know, Jesus.
[00:21:57] So it was a fake savings account. Yeah, yeah, somebody would think. Fake on the people who had to pay. Yes. Now, that's robbery. That's theft. You think you're putting it in the government? Yeah, yeah. And then they ran for office on the lock box. There we go.
[00:22:15] We're on the lock box. Now, more than lock box. That's that's that's that's that's that's ridiculous. But it's criminal. It is criminal. What do you think? It's a sample. We go to jail. Yeah, but the government says we're going to create this pyramid scheme and it's okay
[00:22:32] because we legal a stick. Yeah. The only thing is there's human consequences. Yeah, so the people who are vulnerable time of their life. And that's why it ultimately always comes down to humanity and it comes out. Do we love the people in this country or don't we?
[00:22:51] If you truly love them, you would never do this where you still money from people's bank account. Well, stealing money and lying about it too. Yeah. Because then anytime that someone comes forward to say, we need to address what's going
[00:23:03] on with social security because the money isn't there. And we have to, we may have to adjust how we're allocating the money and pushing the money back out to people who are retired. People get angry and they think you're taking something away from them and what they don't
[00:23:20] understand is that what you're actually trying to do is make sure there's something for them. And there's nothing. It's not, it's not there right now. When George W. Bush took his oath for his second inaugural, he launched a reform of social security. Yeah, he tried.
[00:23:37] And he went everywhere all the time, giving speeches about how important it could be yours. And that would be at least a way to open this thing up. But he got his political head handed to him by the other side that demonized it to no end.
[00:23:49] And I'm not even sure that his motive is worse. He was needed to be. But at least it was a start. He actually did try. He really did try. And he couldn't get Congress to help it all. They don't all know that. That's dang.
[00:24:00] Because the Democrats demonized it. Yeah, they did. And so now won't be touched again for another generation or so I don't think. No, I don't think that I don't think that it well and I don't know how much longer we
[00:24:10] can sustain the amount of debt we continue to add. I don't know where we are at what point we hit the tipping point. Demographics are everything because that's our destiny because you take people who are baby boomers, they're retiring.
[00:24:26] So they're leaving their peak earning years all the money that was flowing into the treasury, they're leaving. That's a huge bubble of people that are leaving and going into retirement. So now they're drawing down. They're drawing out of social security. They're drawing out of men and care.
[00:24:42] And their revenue isn't coming in. So it's this Democrats idea of a replacement theory where they're the ones that want to bring in a different population. They don't like us very much. So they want to bring a different population into the United States.
[00:24:56] The only thing is the earnings that are coming in from the new population isn't anywhere near what the old populations earnings are. So that's retelting the United States and pushing us faster into bankruptcy. You know, it reminds me that Paul Ryan is in this good news.
[00:25:13] This is exactly what it's like. What motivated the Tea Party movement to begin with? I mean, these 15 years ago congratulations. Paul Ryan presented a balanced budget when he was the chairman of the budget committee. And I went into a small room there with about 10 or dozen as well.
[00:25:29] He briefed us on this balanced budget. And so I'm looking at this and he's got the charts with the graph in this and the budget balanced in 25 years. I was stunned. I remember that thinking. I thought this was a balanced budget.
[00:25:43] And I said, this is a delayed budget. And I said to him according to the savings of the last year. You are waiting for the baby boomers to die to balance the budget.
[00:25:52] And he goes, what we have to because after all there's so many on retirement, we can't balance the budget until they're dead. And I said, why did you have to bring that up Steve? Is what he said to me.
[00:26:00] And then what about the boomers than who go in and there's more of them that will be on social security? This is just stunning how some other testimony statistics dean from Stanford testified before an immigration committee that we needed to bring in millions of third world people
[00:26:19] to pay for the social security and the Medicare of the baby boomers. And I ask him, who is going to pay their social security in their Medicare? And he goes, that's for the next generation to worry about. It's a period of excuse. Right.
[00:26:31] Where do we off the pyramid? Yeah. So shifting gears a little bit to something that the T-party Petri transaction does not engage in as much. But you guys had roles paying attention to this national security. And what do the things that are happening right now around the world?
[00:26:49] It seems to me that the world since is weakness from America. They do. And that is part of why Putin went ahead and invaded in Ukraine while Biden is president. We see what has happened with Israel, and there's concern about China and Taiwan.
[00:27:09] I want your opinions on that. And then there are legitimate questions about how much should the government be spending on those helping other countries and whether it's an endless war or not?
[00:27:25] It's a lot of what people are talking about right now, and I'd love to hear your opinions on it. One thing I would say is that you can think of anything at modern history as shown us.
[00:27:36] You can get domestic policy wrong here in the United States and you can turn it around. The evidence of that would be Ronald Reagan after Jimmy Carter. He was able to miraculously turn the economy around pretty fast by using good fundamental principles. Donald Trump did the same thing.
[00:27:53] The problem is if you get foreign policy-brain. If you get foreign policy-brain, it is decades into the future that you pay the price if at all. Sometimes it's irreversible. One of the worst, I'll give you an example.
[00:28:05] One of the worst mistakes ever made was Jimmy Carter, who sat on his hands when the Shah of Iran needed our help. And Jimmy Carter sat in his hands. And so what happened is that Shah fell in Iran and instead the Iotolokhomani was living in Paris, France.
[00:28:21] He went to Iran and that created the modern state of terrorism. Since 1979, Iran has been the number one state sponsor of terrorism in the world. He just saw their most recent escapade on October 7th when they hired their proxies
[00:28:38] to attack Israel and bring a one day genocide against Israel. They're very bad actor. They just announced they're building another nuclear plant. The Iotolokhomani said about 10 years ago, we will annihilate Israel in 25 years. And if there's anything history teaches, Jenny Beth, it's one of Matt Man's speaks.
[00:28:59] You listen. So they mean it. So the world is on fire right now because they saw they didn't try any of this during Donald Trump. He was very strong. Everybody knew we were Donald Trump stood.
[00:29:11] The United States was held in great respect and a steam that tables have flipped completely and it's almost like Joe Biden is a caricature of the United States. And so the worst actors, the worst leaders on the world stage are looking at Joe Biden
[00:29:29] and they're seeing a stumbling, bumbling leader and they're attributing him to the United States. So they're taking the measure. And the reason why you see all this kinetic activity all over the world right now and bad actors doing unthinkable things is because they see our weakness.
[00:29:46] They not only smell it but they're deciding, hey, this is our opportunity. We're going to take a quantum leap toward what we want. And that's rule and dominion over helpless people. And you're seeing that with communist China versus Taiwan and other four days, you're
[00:30:03] seeing that with communist Russia against Ukraine. You're seeing it down in Venezuela. You're seeing it literally breaking out all over the world. The worst is Iran and what their intention is. And now what's worse is for the first time in human history we're seeing Iran, Turkey,
[00:30:20] Russia, we're seeing a conflagration and economically at the same time. We're seeing bricks which is a group of bad actor nations. Brazil is now led by communist so we're seeing bad actor nations wanting to freeze the American dollar out and reduce sales of oil on the American dollar.
[00:30:42] And instead, displays the United States dollar as the global currency. And instead have a different currency that will bring untold devastation to our economy. But also the question is at the end of the day, who's going to be the ruling part in the world?
[00:31:01] Who will be the economic superpower? Who will be the United States? Every day when we woke up of our lives, we woke up knowing the United States was the economic superpower of world. We were the military superpower of the world. So we had choices.
[00:31:14] Now, I would have to say that I don't think the United States is the economic superpower of the world anymore. And I don't think we're the military superpower of the world anymore. And I think that's evidence by what other bad actor nations think of us.
[00:31:30] They're taking a position of leadership and that transfer of power won't be a peaceful one. If communist China is the global power or Iran, a regional power, that won't be a peaceful transfer of power, it'll be a world on fire. Go ahead.
[00:31:46] Just to the piece of history that I'm thinking about, I'm listening to this, contemporary peace. My father was World War II and so I grew up in the 50s and 60s. And I would ask him, Dad, of wherever lost a war. No, we've never lost a war.
[00:31:59] We will never lose a war. The United States always engages to win and we win. And the world knows it. And that's a deterrent for the rest of the world. Now, I didn't realize at the time that Korea was an negotiated settlement, Dad called
[00:32:12] that a victory by when I looked back on history, not so much so. So after the Vietnam War, sometime I found a book written by General G.A., who was a commanding general for the North Vietnamese.
[00:32:23] And the title of the book is How We Defitted the United States. And he wrote in that book that he got his first inspiration on How Did He Feet the United States because we had accepted an negotiated settlement in Korea.
[00:32:35] He believed that we did not have the resolve to finish a war and he bought a war of attrition throughout all of those years, believing we would give in. And in the end, net Richard Nixon was impeached and the chaos out of that brought about
[00:32:48] massive Democrat majorities in the House. And they brought legislation that got all funding off to support the South Vietnam in the landless, no military support in the land of Vietnam. The size, skies above it, sees adjacent to it or the countries adjacent to it.
[00:33:04] And I read that legislation that was there. It was essentially pulling immunation off the docks at day and egg. And we wondered why the South Vietnamese collapsed. That's the biggest reason as to why. And now we couldn't go on with Afghanistan, $85 billion of the military equipment cut
[00:33:19] in running the most economic fashion that there ever was and leaving all the military equipment there pulling off a bargaret of air base, which I imagine we've all been to. And that base controls that entire region around there and it's so defensible.
[00:33:32] He pulls off of that and then goes back to the municipal airport in Kabul. This is so disgraceful. And a piece after piece of the astral Biden has been wrong on every public foreign policy piece for his entire public. And the creature gates. That's right.
[00:33:47] Well, yes, that's right. And his book. Yeah. And I want to. So he said I'm right. He said that Biden had been wrong in his book. He said years ago he'd been wrong on every foreign policy issue for the last 40 years. He said it in some private meetings.
[00:34:03] But that was the 10 years ago, wasn't it? Well, he's been more than that. Yeah. So he'll be there for some reason. I was wrong. Right. Well, and going back to Iran is Michelle was talking about. Let's give Jimmy Carter some credit.
[00:34:18] He didn't just clear the way for the eye told it to come back. He welcomed him back in control of Iran as a man of peace. Really? That's unbelievable. He called him a man of peace.
[00:34:33] And so people around the world, they know that actions in foreign policy have consequences. And so when Russia made a move on Georgia, not South Eastern conference, but Georgia, the former Soviet Union, they made a move. They attacked Georgia.
[00:34:57] And the Bush administration, I thought it was kind of a weak response, but they put really tough sanctions on Russia and Russian officials. So when President Obama won, they sent Hillary Clinton over there with a plastic red button. I remember that.
[00:35:15] I mean, she wanted it to be a Russia-a red button to push out. I don't think this is a good thing. It's all in a reset, but the word they used in Russian didn't mean reset. But anyway, but you got to see what that means.
[00:35:31] Besides it meant incompetence that we couldn't put the right Russian word on it. But it also sent a message. What Hillary Clinton was saying by that action was, we think the Bush administration overreacted when you attacked another country, Georgia.
[00:35:49] And so we wanted to know we were okay with what you did. And we won overreact if you attack another country. But it was all but a written invitation to attack Crimea, which they then did because
[00:36:05] they knew well Obama administration and Hillary Clinton said they won overreact when we attacked another country. We were in congressman that house. And so those kind of things people are looking for signals and going back to Korean war.
[00:36:23] Obama attributed the North attacking South when after a Secretary of State at the time said that Korea basically was beyond our sphere of influence. And they took that to mean they could attack and we wouldn't do anything.
[00:36:42] But those kind of things, those kind of statements, those kind of actions, we think Bush overreacted. It sends a clear message to tyrants. But then you can go ahead and get away with them.
[00:36:53] And as a voters need to remember when the poll in the fall, the importance of the foreign policy issue. We think about our wallets and we think about a lot of issues like that but we've also got to think about foreign policy.
[00:37:07] If you look at the accumulation of the foreign policy disasters of the last 60 years, there's one political party that's fingered for making the worst possible decisions. The Republicans didn't always get it right either. But these disastrous decisions like what Obama made, Obama wanted to empower Iran.
[00:37:29] He's been trying to do the thing, this is Obama's third term. Let's face it. Obama's in joint his third term as president and his whole goal has been to empower Iran. What a devastation for the world and who's paid the price more than anyone Israel.
[00:37:47] Israel has paid the price in all of our paying the price and now for the first time in a way that we've never seen before. The United States of America is cursing Israel with our foreign policy. We are cursing them. It couldn't be what we now threaten them.
[00:38:05] We have a pro-Hamas, a pro-terrorist policy and a lot of the points that were put forward. I heard a speech from Vice President Kamala Harris and my job at the floor. When she spoke, I couldn't believe all the demand she was putting on Israel.
[00:38:21] Essentially demand that they lose this war effort. And there was peace. There was peace on October 6th. Yes, there was peace and there was a money. I ended that. That's right. And when we had peace on September 10th and then we were attacked on September 11th,
[00:38:41] we would have told the rest of the world to give a jump in a lake if they told us that we had to lose a war. We weren't.
[00:38:47] That would not be okay with any single American we were the most united of ever seen our country right after that happened. And same we'd never forget in the United we stand and of course look at us now we all forgot. And we're sharply divided.
[00:39:04] But I put myself in Israel's shoes and I just think there's no way in the world that we would have allowed anyone out to know what country it was to tell us how to fight back again. That's right brutal terror and it really is true.
[00:39:19] You reap what you sow. So we need to be careful as a nation if we're making these these demands that you must lose a war to Israel after you've been attacked after you've been attacked there are consequences to us.
[00:39:33] So here Joe Biden is eager he can't wait to give away another 60 billion dollars to Ukraine, but he can't give even 14 billion to a desperate Israel who yes,
[00:39:45] October 7th was a genocide, but what most people don't know Jenny Beth is that every single day there are deaths either from guns knives or people taking a car to run over and kill Jews. That's the whole focus to try and kill Jews.
[00:40:01] Why would we want to empower and be on the side of people with a radical ideology that sees Jews as subhuman? A subhuman? That's a wrong ideology. I've seen the video that this really government has allowed media and key leaders around the world to see.
[00:40:21] I've actually seen it twice now. And the thing, they're horrible awful things and because you're watching as a terrorist or killing killing people, it's just it is awful to watch. The thing that I found the absolute most shocking is that they were taking bodies back into
[00:40:40] Gaza and they were cheering. The people on the streets were cheering and yelling like it was a parade for the terrorists, and they were more excited to see those terrorists than any Taylor Swift fan in this entire country was to be.
[00:40:58] Yes, it was to be in the high. And they are all, they're okay with what they voted for. She voted for it. She didn't. And knowing what they were. And I have not seen where Israel is cheering as people in Gaza have been killed. No, no.
[00:41:16] As a matter of fact, he puts Perry. I lived in Cuba. It's Perry. He was one of the first keybuttses that were attacked when I was an 18 year old. I went over and lived and worked and volunteered.
[00:41:25] I went back and December just to visit people that I knew from there were killed and slaughtered in their homes and cold blood innocent people on Saturday morning on October 7th. It was the most horrific event. How fast the world forgets what happened?
[00:41:42] Like you said, what if that happened here would we stand by and allow ourselves not to be able to put ourselves in a position of peace because what's Israel supposed to do? You have this mad ideology that lives next door to Jews.
[00:41:59] And their belief is that Jews shouldn't live. That's there. That's the article that it's an article and the charter that Jews need. That's genocide. That yes, they need to defeat and Israel must not exist. And so this cannot be allowed to go on.
[00:42:17] And Israel needs to have the freedom as any sovereign nation would protect its people and the sovereign two of its border and to protect against future attacks because the leadership of Hamas. That's all they've been saying is we're going to have more October 7th.
[00:42:32] They're probably more energized and engaged than ever in bringing genocide about the Jewish people. What something like this happens? Something like the Sabbath massacre, which was October 7th or September 11th here or Pearl Harbor.
[00:42:49] Whenever that happens, you know that there's a half life of us, double culture's anger over that. And you have to bring the maximum force as early as possible to put it into it. However, ghastly the slaughter you have to perpetrate on them because the will to complete
[00:43:03] this is diminished whether it's among the people that are threatened in Israel, which is less or so. But the allies that are there that will has been dissipating on the first days and weeks
[00:43:11] and months of this, it was a strongest opposition and that was a time to unload everything on there. And I thought that they should have pushed it harder out of Israel than they did. And but they're also the casualties that were concerned about and they were concerned
[00:43:23] about the the hostages that are still some of them there. But I just needed a hundred and thirty six or hundred thirty. But I had to come hard and strong so that there was no question.
[00:43:33] And the things that we did the Second World War, for example, we burn nearly every city in Japan and we save back because we had to get rid of their industry and we had to break the spirit in the will of them.
[00:43:43] That's you have to break the spirit and the will as bad as it is. But that's a lesson of history and I think that Israel's going to come out of this okay. And regarding Israel, the weaker the United States is, the weaker we are on the
[00:43:56] world stage, the more that empowers Iran. Yeah. So Iran will continue to do every outrageous thing they can because they literally do believe. They have the political will, the military will, they really believe that they're
[00:44:12] going to destroy Israel, meaning they're going to destroy every Jew and they're going to commit genocide against the Jews. Where's the world coming after Iran? Where is the world? They're going after Israel? Why aren't they coming against Iran?
[00:44:26] It's a run that wants to kill and bring genocide against the Jews. And Iran just killed Americans and they've been attacking military installations, American military and their solution. And there's a layer of congenital. And Gaza. And we're.
[00:44:40] We tell a graph to what we were, how we were going to respond to make sure they were covered protected on the ground. But it goes back to what John Adams said. This Constitution was intended for a moral and religious people.
[00:44:56] It is wholly inadequate for the governing of any other. And that is so true. And if you look what the leftist, so the socialist that it moved into universities, it's been teaching everything's relative. There's no moral right or wrong. It's all relative.
[00:45:14] That's why they should all come to Regent University. Indeed. Indeed. It's. It's widespread. It's even affected dramatically. My alma mater used to be such a conservative university. But Natan Shuranski, I was telling Ron Dermer that I know you helped him with the case for this.
[00:45:38] And he was a mockery to Prime Minister Netanyahu. Yeah. But he was at the capital one day on a Saturday. And I know you helped Shuranski with the case for democracy. That was really a terrific book. So well thought out, he's such a brilliant man.
[00:45:53] He said if you read his defending identity, you know, I said no. He said, you need to. He was right. I read it. And in there, Shuranski points out that the failure to teach citizens that there is moral
[00:46:09] right and wrong and give them moral clarity is what any wrote this in a way. That's what causes them to confuse the arsonist with the firemen and say, well, they're moral equivalents or to and he speaks belt is out.
[00:46:27] It causes you to say that the terrorists that attack innocent people and kill them are morally equivalent to those who defend themselves and attack them back. And the victims. And that's exactly what we see. We see.
[00:46:44] We see that very thing play out that people, there's so many students at universities, people all over the country coming out and protest. They can't tell the difference between terrorists that kill innocent people and a people that defend themselves against them.
[00:47:04] And there's this bizarre thinking that I've heard they're counting the number of people who have died in the war versus a number of people who died on October 7th. Yeah, so they're counting the soldiers or the the jihadists that are fighting in Gaza and counting. Right.
[00:47:27] They're counting this and they're saying, well, there are more people who've died in Gaza now than who have died in Israel. First, I'm not sure that we can believe all the numbers from them. From them.
[00:47:40] And we don't have any independent body going into to verify that whether saying is true or not. And perhaps they're being truthful and perhaps they're not believe no way of knowing because there's no one verifying that. But in war, that isn't you don't go okay.
[00:47:59] It's a scoreboard and we're counting more. You know, that has more and that's how you say it. You don't see a moral equivalent. You say these are the people that were evil and attacked in kill innocence. And these are the people that are defending their rights to live.
[00:48:16] What would we have said about the Japanese when Pearl Harbor was bombed? I think you were getting to that point. Well, the point was we killed about six million Japanese. General Curtis Lime had the fire bombs with the out of the B29s.
[00:48:28] They flew over the cities in Japan with incendiary bombs. They flew in a cross pattern and it's pattern. And it looked at the weather in the wind and they would detonate those bombs about 200 feet
[00:48:38] up and it'd go over all the paper houses and just incinerate and then it created its own weather and rolled down the streets. Tokyo was burned. It was a Hiroshima Nagasaki and Kobe, I believe it was, were saved for the out of bomb.
[00:48:52] They didn't bomb those cities because they saved it and put the out of bombs in them. That was so devastating. And it doesn't show up in our history. I've got to book this. Got the pictures. And I read through that and I was, well, there's no question.
[00:49:02] I believe it. So that was a devastating thing we did in Germany, nearly every city in Germany. And it was a really great room. Truman gets a bad wrap on that. And in fact, there was a question under the federal mandated test that some had on their
[00:49:17] state tests, you know, a true false that the United States using nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki raised serious moral issues about the United States. It was something like that. And the truth is, what they were weighing is all of the information indicated at the emperor
[00:49:42] had said you will fight to the death house to house you will fight to the death. And they knew we would probably lose five million more Japanese and five million more allies. And if they dropped those atomic bombs as horrendous and horrible as they were, it might
[00:50:03] be half a million people. And so it was an agonizing decision. He wanted to end. And he saved millions and millions of lives on both sides. It was about a hundred thousand in each of those two cities that were killed by the bombs. About a hundred thousand.
[00:50:20] And when you look at the numbers, it would have been with an American invasion. However, that might have been. It probably started with a half a million. What's the agonizing decision? But it was just to say, my war is terrible.
[00:50:30] And it's why you want to have the United States be strong and healthy as a nation and have more clarity. And when we lack any of those elements, then that's when you have weakness. And when you're weakness, then you're bad actors want to pray on a nation.
[00:50:47] That's our vulnerability right now. We need to be a strong nation with the moral clarity and be economically strong in every respect. And that's where, you know, that's our whole goal is we want this country and the people
[00:51:01] in this country to have the greatest life they can possibly have. That's what we want to see. And we can't when we're weak. We can't when we're in the current state that we're in. I agree with everything that you just said.
[00:51:15] War comes sometimes whether you want it or not. It is not like Israel wanted war to happen. And we can debate how much money needs to go to Ukraine, but war came to Ukraine as well and they had to step up and defend themselves.
[00:51:33] And I think that that's something in the debates that are going on right now about how much money should be spent, whether any money should be spent in helping these other countries. I think that we just have to remember sometimes war comes whether we want it or not.
[00:51:52] And when it does come, you have to address it because it's right in front of you. It's like if you're you're going along and you're dealing with everything in your life and all of a sudden you have a heart attack.
[00:52:02] You have to deal with the heart attack right now before you can take care of anything else. When as soon as debates are going on and they have been in the continue and Congress about how much to spend helping Ukraine or helping Israel or potentially Taiwan.
[00:52:20] What do you think about that? Because the spending we just talked about the spending issues that we have in our country. And I think that the people and Congress who are seeing their needs to be offset or some way to pay for it.
[00:52:35] I think there's a legitimate arguments and debates that we need to be having. Well, for when as someone who spent time in Ukraine that was the first part of the exchange student summer that's been over there.
[00:52:50] I have a heart few crane, but I was disturbed when Zelensky came and addressed the house. And basically in essence was saying, no, there's concern about all the money you're sending. Don't worry, we're spending it wisely or well. And I'm sorry there needs to be accountability.
[00:53:14] Where did the money go? Who got that money? Are the rumors that some people have been enriched? Why is it true that they've enriched Americans that then send products over there? Where has that money gone? And there's not been adequate accountability.
[00:53:33] And I think that's why we're saying that we've spent minimum 112 billion dollars. So we haven't been cheap. We've spent 112 billion dollars. Well, we don't forget too that when Joe Biden came in as president and took all those actions to stop
[00:53:51] our being energy independent and all the things he did to raise the price of oil. And that changed actually paid Russia made. Yes, huge amount of dollars. And it's the same thing with the run. In other words, we paid for both sides of that war.
[00:54:13] We paid for both sides of that war. We usually pay for both sides of every war. Well, it is legitimate to make the argument that we aren't defending our own borders. We're not going to be able to do that.
[00:54:33] And we're helping Ukraine defend their border against the Russians, but I had a meeting with three Russians here about a month ago. Maybe a little less. And they were fairly young in the mid-20s to probably about there. Maybe 30. And they said, we're going back to Ukraine.
[00:54:50] And so there's a piece of the thing that my attitude is that if they're willing to spend their lives in their blood, then we can help them from the freedom side of it.
[00:54:59] We did lend least to the Russians before the World War under a similar philosophy, which you got to monitor that. And it's got to be exactly what's going there and for what? And that means that there are military. How many trade you have thrown in the military type?
[00:55:16] I'm a counter. I mean, we've got to get to 6, right now. Well, okay. But you can appoint people to monitor that right out of the White House.
[00:55:26] And if you remember when George W. Bush was in Iraq and came back from there, he wanted to be briefed and debriefed me and a few of the other people went with me. And they're set general loot in the White House.
[00:55:37] And I'm listening to watching that general loot's taking notes and he's kind of off on the side. And afterwards I walked out with W. And I said, what's general Ruth job here?
[00:55:47] And he said, well, his job is to make sure that the orders that I gave, the commandments I gave is commander and chief are carried out because I can't get the joint chiefs to follow through on what it is they tell them to do.
[00:55:57] So I assign general loot to monitor this and put a team together to follow behind the direction. You can do many things like that to follow the military.
[00:56:05] And the Pentagon had a guy like that who was monitoring expenditures to make sure we got value for what was spent. His name was at and wasn't at him loving her. And he found where there were 2, 300,000 dollar payments over Mayan going to some professor in London.
[00:56:27] And he couldn't find that they got anything in return for that. So he passed that information up and they made up of recent excuse to fire him. It turns out that we're paying Stefan Helper helper.
[00:56:41] Who was the one that is alleged he's setting up Carter Page and pop a Dopolis so they could get a warrant so they could spawn the Trump campaign. So the defense department was taking that guy.
[00:56:56] It is true that all the institutions in America have been corrupted by the left every institution in America.
[00:57:02] Culturally the damage is so bad that I can only think go back down to the families, go back down to their door to our churches and build this thing from the bottom up. And all the people that will homeschool their children.
[00:57:13] Young people that fall in love get married have a lot of babies and raise them right. And I'm glad to see that Elon Musk has come around to that side although I don't want to agree with the methodology.
[00:57:22] Yes. I think it's ideology is right a lot of babies and raise them right and that slowly then lifts up our society again.
[00:57:29] But the poison that's out there in our public institutions for example, and then when you meet immigrants at the border with your well you're down with the NGOs. Clare down into Ecuador.
[00:57:37] And here's our welcome Matt here and we'll put you on and put you on the magic carpet to the United States of America and as you said, Here's your debit card and here's your medical and and here's the plane ticket to take you where you want to go.
[00:57:50] When they when they arrive here even before they arrive here, they are taught assimilation is now a dirty word. You don't have to learn the language you don't have to accept the American culture and civilization. It isn't really what we think it is anyway.
[00:58:01] It's what they say they want to turn into and then you have Joe Biden saying that by the year X, Well, the America will be a minority white, white country and he said that's not a bad thing.
[00:58:13] That's a good thing because diversity is our strength and no one can make the argument as to why diversity is our strength. I would say that diversity has assets to it that you can certainly use but assimilation is the glue that glues them together. Then you have strength.
[00:58:27] Yeah, diversity is the United country. If we're united as a country as developed with all the diverse backgrounds. But some of the best citizens in this country have come from places like Eastern block countries been as way up.
[00:58:44] African countries that have known how horrible the totalitarian government can be. There's some of our best citizens and they're freaking out. They're seeing this taking hold in this country. The United States has been funding totalitarian regimes.
[00:59:01] We've funded Iran and this is a it's a horror on our nation that Joe Biden lifted the sanctions on Iran for their oil sales that President Trump effectively put on. And they had tens of billions of dollars in money and they used their money to advance terrorism.
[00:59:20] And Joe Biden gave six billion dollars just before October 7th to the Iranians who have very obvious well stated designs against annihilating the Jewish state. But then he gave an additional ten billion dollars to Iran.
[00:59:37] So we have a situation at America funding the chief state sponsor of terrorism and to give ten billion dollars after they slaughtered 1200 innocent Jews and took 246 people hostage in Gaza. And we still have them in Gaza. There is no moral equivalency here.
[00:59:59] It's inexplicable what the US administration has done. We have never treated Israel's enemy like we have treated it. We are lavishing them and I think part of it is it is my intention that this is Barack Obama's third term as President he was always decidedly pro Iran.
[01:00:19] That's where he faced for Iran, but look what Iran has done with what we have given them. They've brought about death and destruction and they continually shout death to America. And death to Israel. And they mean it when a mad man speaks listen.
[01:00:34] So we're looking at 14. something billion for Israel that's fighting for their life right now. There's no there's no equivalency here. And so I am hoping that the United States really quickly wakes up and again gets a brain and does the right thing.
[01:00:52] We should be punishing evil doers and rewarding those who are doing good. And in this scenario, Iran is the evil doer. They should be punished. Israel is doing good and they should be benefited. Just put that 14 billion up on the floor and a stand alone bill.
[01:01:14] Which Mike which Mike Johnson did? One of the first things he did was that and the house passed it. But this doesn't take a pass because they want to package together a deal and leverage something back in. We don't know where all the money is going.
[01:01:31] With Ukraine, but are you seeing that about Israel as well or are you Ukraine? We don't know where all the money is going. I'm not as concerned about Israel because we know where that money is being spent and a lot of it does go.
[01:01:49] It stays in the United States. It's American companies that are providing the ammunition and the rocket things like that. So I don't have a problem with that but I do have a problem with a lot of the money that defense is spending when we don't.
[01:02:06] When they say, oh, another $trade in dollars we can't account for. Yeah, we don't know where that. And then so it's I'm not as concerned about Israel. I'm concerned about arguments to apartment and I'm concerned about Ukraine accountability.
[01:02:21] And there should be no money going to Iran or anyone that Iran is helping until terrorism. What no accounting firm would ever certify the books of the defense department. Oh my God. Ever. They don't even bother to try and reconcile their ledgers. They don't even bother.
[01:02:43] It's just another example of the two tier justice system that we have. And it's also the COVID money that was said, you want to talk about fraud on believable fraud. That's all through the government. So don't let anyone tell you that government is on a bare bones budget.
[01:03:00] Yeah. That doesn't survive the falling off the chair laughing to me. Okay, one last question. To wrap it up we are in 2024 and next year's 2025 and that is the 250th anniversary of our country. What do you when you think about that in the future of America?
[01:03:24] Just what are your thoughts? May it ever be. May we ever be what we were when we began and may our children be able to sit here one day and in front of a microphone and say that we live in the greatest country in the world. We're free.
[01:03:39] That's more eloquent than I. However, I would say this that I would want to see that pillars of American exceptionalism refurbished all of them and pride in who are what our country is in our history.
[01:03:51] This brought us here and the greatest generation that took us through World War Two and handed over to the baby boomer generation. And the hippies that came out of that have poisoned the well. And let's clean that up and let's get back to the basics.
[01:04:04] The simplicity into individual rights and liberty and all of this robust freedom. This sadness today about what's happened to our freedom of speech.
[01:04:12] And we have to wrestle that back and get back all of those principles that the made of made America great and teach it in our schools over and over again. So they know why the United States of America has long been the unchallenged greatest nation in the world.
[01:04:26] We derive our strength from Judeo Christian values pre-enterprise. And Western civilization. Yeah, the aspirations at the founding.
[01:04:36] Yes, there were people that had slaves but the aspirations that they set forth in our founding documents were what created the way for the first country that would actually go to war.
[01:04:49] And in slavery as a result of a civil war and to move forward and have a civil rights movement. So that as Dr. King said, you know, people would be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
[01:05:05] And now in recent years people are being taught, no you judge people by their skin color, you judge people by all. All these things that we're not supposed to be judged on that we're supposed to be considered equal in.
[01:05:23] But so I hope we'll get back to the founding aspirations, but that will never happen until we start. We get back our institutions and teach a moral right and wrong based on Judeo Christian principles.
[01:05:40] And David Horowitz is an agnostic, but he has made a clear look if we don't get back to those basic founding Judeo Christian principles. This country is going to be over.
[01:05:54] Well, I hope that we do get back to those principles and that we that we all you aren't in Congress anymore, but every single one of you continues to stand for liberty everyday of your life.
[01:06:07] And that we're doing everything we can this year because the elections ultimately will determine the fate of the country. And they do every year, but I think this year is especially important. And that we hold on to liberty in America and around the world.
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