Marxism's Threat to America: A Firsthand Perspective | Mike Gonzalez, Sr Fellow, Heritage Foundation

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Marxism is all about revolutions, about destruction.

[00:00:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Marx's favorite saying came from Dr. Faust, a written by Gother and that is everything

[00:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: that exists to serve to be destroyed.

[00:00:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Keeping our republic is online and it requires patriots with great passion, dedication

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and eternal vigilance to preserve our freedoms.

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Jenny Beth Martin is the co-founder of Tea Party Patriots.

[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_01]: She is an author, a filmmaker and one of time magazines most influential people in

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: the world.

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But the title she is most proud of is Mark to her boy girl twins.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_01]: She has been at the forefront, fighting to protect America's core principles for more than

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_01]: a decade.

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to The Jenny Beth Show.

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_02]: In today's episode I'm joined by Mike Gonzalez, Senior Fellow at the Heritage Foundation

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and author of several books on Marxism and Socialism.

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll dive into his first hand experience as growing up in communist Cuba and discuss

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_02]: the real threats Marxism poses to America today.

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, join me as we explore what's it take for our freedoms and how we can fight back

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_02]: against this failed ideology.

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Mike, thanks so much for joining me today.

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so glad that we're able to have this discussion.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Jenny Beth is a joy to be on with you, your real patriot.

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I've always admired what you do and I haven't admired you.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, thank you very much.

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_02]: So you know and understand socialism and communism and Marxism firsthand don't you

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_02]: from your life experiences?

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean first I've written about it.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I've written books about Marxism.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_00]: You go out at both ways.

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_00]: One is I first I spent the first 12 years of my life in Cuba about three of them going

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_00]: to communist schools.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Left of the age of 12, you can tell quickly by looking at me.

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not exactly last week that I left.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_00]: But I've also, but you so you have that experience and that experience is very valuable

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_00]: but you also have experience of researching it and writing books about it.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_00]: You know somebody once said if you want to know what somebody else thinks read, if you

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_00]: want to know what you think right.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_00]: So writing books or Marxism especially the last one that I co-wrote with Katherine Gorka

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: next gen Marxism what it is and how to combat it that really gives you the arguments

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_00]: that you need to identify Marxism and combat it.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and I want to talk about that some and I also may have additional questions

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_02]: to go back to about what it was like in those first 12 years in Cuba but first let's

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_02]: go through your books so you you know this is the latest book you've written other

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_02]: books as well correct?

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, this is my fourth book.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing.

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for writing so many books and warning America about the problems we face.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So what is next gen Marxism?

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Next gen Marxism starts with Marx.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: We could have started with a French Revolution and I don't want to know we only have

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: an hour.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You can start with a devil they call some of all this but you start with Marxism pure

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: simple 1848 the manifesto written between by Marx and Engels and then you have the

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: evolution of into cultural Marxism in 1920s when they realized communist realized that Marx's

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_00]: economic determinism was not really applicable it was not really how man thought and how

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: man behaved so they became cultural they thought well the culture is a way to make humans

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_00]: into Marxists and then when that is brought to America and flourishes here in the 1960s we add

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: you know the problems that we have which is really over race, race is a big issue in this country

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and we the Polarist area at the work are no longer the Lucas of revolution is no longer the revolutionary

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: the man the agent that the intellectual thought were going to over through the system

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: it becomes what Herbert Markuzzo one of the philosophers of this whole idea called people

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: the ghetto population I'm quoting him directly and I'm going to quote him directly again

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: people of other races and other colors so that then become they say they think this is all messed up

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: but they think that people of other minority races or sorry about this or who they the members

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: of the marginalized groups whether they're cast in racial or sexual categories are going to be

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_00]: the new revolutionaries that last part is next-gen Marxism that's the crux of next-gen Marxism

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_02]: why is it important when people talk about Marxism to talk about revolutions why is it a cultural

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_02]: revolution or these are the people who need to implement the revolution in America what does that

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_02]: mean exactly and is it a revolution like Americans who grew up in America might think of the

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: revolutionary war if there my age or is it something different your age is very young you know

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Marxism is all about revolutions, about destruction it really is about destruction Marxist

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: favorite saying came from Dr. Faust written by Gother and that is everything that lives

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_00]: this serves everything that exists this serves to be destroyed and that is really the crux of

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Marxism and in Marx in the manifesto wrote that there would be constant revolutions in which

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: the oppressed in his day they they they they work her they're pro-eterriat would would rise up and

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_00]: overthrow the bourgeois kill him rapist wife and children and and and and overthrow the system

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: overthrow capital, overthrow capitalism but if you even even when that gets transferred to cultural

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Marxism it's all about revolution because because we live in a system especially here in America

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: that is capitalist and democratic we have parliamentary democracy, representative democracy

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: and they need to destroy that they say very clearly they need to destroy they want to destroy

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_00]: representative democracy which they don't like and the system of capitalism which is just a word for

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_00]: for freedom right I own this phone, uh, Jenny Beth and you want to buy this phone, Jenny Beth

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_00]: and you and I haggle on a price and we finally come to a price at which we both walk away happy that is

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: that is the only that's that's capitalism freedom they they don't like that and they they want to

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: destroy everything because they they say and you'd take have to take some of them yet take them

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: by their word they say that the system doesn't work they don't think the system works of course

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: their system really doesn't work I've lived through it and I we have the experience of other people

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: who have lived through it you know God in his infinite wisdom has even given us laboratory experiments

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: of the same people the same culture the same DNA one capital is one one communist I'm talking about

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: he's Germany and West Germany and North Korea and South Korea and in both those cases South Korea and

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: West Germany were free you know places where people lived happy lives and he's Germany and North

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Korea were dysfunctional places where people were putting互郎's they think so that's how

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_00]: their system doesn't work but they think that our system is very bad at redistributing resources

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: that supermarkets throw away a lot of food every night and yet you see homeless people who want

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_00]: food they say that is that is something that needs to be destroyed completely and a new system needs

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_02]: to be put in this place and when they put the new system in the place what is it that they think

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_02]: that they're going to put in and just elaborate on what they want to replace it with

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Joe, Jenny Beth, you ask really good questions they're very they keep that very hidden

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_00]: they keep that very hidden if you what do we once you study Marxism you realize that it is a thing

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: that their they don't reveal a lot of what their plans are they they're very reveal they're

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_00]: very clear about what the ones destroy and then they they you topia what a quote unquote you

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_00]: appear they want to replace it with is very nebulous we know in the what happens on the ground

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: you have collectivism and central planning in Google access I said and and repression and

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: freedom of the older basic natural rights whether freedom of speech life freedom of association

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_00]: everything is quashed and that is really what is replaced with they will tell you that is replaced

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: with a intermediary period in which there is the dictatorship of the Polariana and you have

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: a dictatorship where the government owns everything but that will go away and we will not even need

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: government and we will be we will live with our government Marx speaks beautifully and stirringly

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: of fishing in the morning writing poetry in the afternoon and drinking wine in the evening

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: you know it's all well I can't curse but it's not it can if you need to yeah no I can find

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I have a good vocabulary I don't need to it's all if it's all fallacy so yeah they did

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: that are very forthcoming with with their with their future plans we know where they are

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: because we've seen the movie unfortunately it's a horror show in the Soviet Union in

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_00]: China in Cuba in Vietnam in Cambodia with the killed one six of the population in many places in

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Africa you know so so it always ends up badly whether Europe Africa Latin America this

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_02]: is not a word of culture is okay Mike let's take a step back because you we need to take two steps

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_02]: back because you you grew up for the first 12 years in Cuba so you really understand what the

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_02]: problems are I grew up in America and when I was a child and a teenager Ronald Reagan was

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_02]: president so I remember being part of the Cold War and wanting to defeat the Soviet Union I

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_02]: have a sense of what of what communism is but people who grew up after me because once I was

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_02]: in college the the Soviet Union came down and communism failed so it doesn't take very many years

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_02]: after I began college that people don't even understand what communism was at all and we've got

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_02]: the new movie out about Reagan and that movie talks about the importance of bringing down the

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Soviet Union but I don't know that it explains why that was so important and how people were

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_02]: can you elaborate on that both from what you know historically about the Soviet Union or China or

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_02]: North Korea but also about what you experience even in Cuba let me touch on the last point first

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: because I've heard this before that since you know the Berlin Wall the iron curtain falls in 1989

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: comes down people behind the iron curtain Czechoslovakia and Poland and Bulgaria are free to travel

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: be prior to that they couldn't leave they was it was a jail and then the Soviet Union is dissolved in 1991

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: so as you said you were a teenager you remember that during those days but I should tell you that one of

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_00]: the the salient features of American life and this has been true from 1776 to the present because

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_00]: America was founded in 1776 I hope you know, in 1619. It has been a really inordinate I attached

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_00]: to freedom one that as somebody who has not always lived in freedom I've always puzzled why

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: are Americans so obsessed with liberty even though they've never lost it a good friend of mine

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Jimmy Lai who is now China's the world's most famous political prisoner whom I met in Hong Kong

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I lived in Hong Kong for eight years a good friend of mine I know my friend's gonna die and it's

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_00]: so very confined and imprisoned he once said to me I was used to quote go to his house all the time

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: he put his arm around me and he said Mike freedom is like oxygen you take oxygen for granted

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_00]: we will take breaths without thinking about it daily but if somebody chokes you then regaining access

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: to oxygen is the number one thing on your mind with liberty is like that you take it for granted

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: but once it's taken away every you focus is divine on how does how to escape how to be free again

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_00]: but always puzzled me was at the United States well not always because I think I have an answer now

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_00]: it's that Americans have never lost their freedom I really among the world's peoples and I've

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_00]: lived all over the world the most the ones who love liberty the most and I think it is because

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_00]: the founders in their wisdom based this republic on natural rights natural rights are

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_00]: all over our finding documents but they're also they're embodied in our institutions

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_00]: so I think that even though we don't have the example of the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I think many people Americans are still attached to liberty but we still need to remind them of that

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_00]: absolutely agree with you the Soviet Union did the cold war and I don't like to use that

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: time because it really was a battle as Reagan Reagan was completely right between good and evil

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_00]: it was you know that battle that that epic struggle was the the most important thing in my life

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_00]: until it ceased to be the most important thing in my life because of Soviet Union went away

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_00]: but now we're fighting again against these new reconstitute and Marxism inside other words

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_00]: if you want me to tell you about what it was like as a boy as a child really because I left at the

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_00]: head just turned 12 you know that idea that somebody's choking you has taken your liberty away

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and it concentrates the mind on being free that is what daily life is that is the daily hell

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: of your life in saying I want to be free and yet I'm not and for us because we had asked to leave

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_00]: very early we had to leave to leave the country in 1966 we were not allowed to leave until 1972

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_00]: during that time we just knew that maybe there was a point in the near future when we would be free

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_00]: and and that it was a daily hope and aspiration but also a sense of desperation you would wake up

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_00]: and you would find out that you were still in Cuba behind bars really because you couldn't leave the island

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_00]: that and in the fact that there were no there were no products on the shelves you know I

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_00]: we went to Europe for us I went to Spain the land of my grandparents and I remember it was there

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_00]: for the first time that a realized what shelves are for in stores they were there to carry goods

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_00]: communist and one of the things that does Marxism it removes the price of recovery mechanism

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: of the market so you come up you just you instantly have shortages you know communism does not produce

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_00]: bread is not only produces bread lines so so the corner stores never had anything on the shelves

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_00]: it was in Spain in Franco Spain a poor country that is oh my god the shelf's are full

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_00]: and you can say anything you want you can say anything you want and nobody's going to

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_00]: my mind I went to a private school until the government closed that when I was in second grade I went to

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: French school and then the government closed that too and there were no more private schools in

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Havana if a second grade to the beginning of sixth grade just a week into sixth grade

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: when we were allowed to leave I had to attend communist schools my parents were terrified

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_00]: that I would speak at the school the things that they were discussing at home because doubt in

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_00]: it was encouraged we were encouraged to tell on our parents and that is although we are free I

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_00]: want to make sure that we're free here in America even under Biden and Harris we're going

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_00]: in that direction where they want to take they want to destroy families and they want to take the

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_00]: authority of the family away and I'll leave this will this will be the last point of this segment

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Alexandra Colunti the culture minister of the Soviet Union in the first one in 1917 said the

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_00]: children belong to the state the children don't belong to bickering parents who don't know how to

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_00]: raise children and that is the communist idea and they were there were statues in the Soviet Union

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_00]: to the skid who had told on his parents and their parents were taken away and executed and this

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: kid was celebrated as a hero and that is the communist idea and that is the horror

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: that people who live in communism live through every day Jenny Beth what is happening here in

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_02]: America you just mentioned that we are free in America but you think that it's encroaching here so

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_02]: what is the current seat right now in America and where do you think it's headed if we see on

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_00]: the same path we're on an i've said you know we are fighting this right now we are either

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: become free and free ourselves of these ideas or we allow these ideas to tell us how to live

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I and that means living in lies I don't really care if people are gay you know but I'm not going

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: to participate I really don't care but I'm not going to participate in the hallucination

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: that a man can become a woman or a woman can become a man and I'm not going to call a man

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_00]: a she or a woman a he and for many Americans if you don't do that I will call them but the

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_00]: name they want to be called you know if a man wants to suddenly be called Susie I will honor that

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_00]: that is not living in a lie that is just being kind to that man who wants to be called Susie

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_00]: what I will not do is no it's called the machine because that's a denial of reality

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and I have made it I've told myself that a yakana live a lie so so the idea that you could

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_00]: lose your job you could lose your standing in society you could be canceled culturally

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_00]: because you refuse to participate in a lie that is a worrisome thing to many Americans

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_00]: you know I travel the country extensively we'll say to me you very lucky you know

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Mikey work for the heritage foundation you don't have to do these things you know I I would be

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_00]: fired and my children would be without a provider and I understand that so what I do is I want to

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: make sure that our leaders have the right the policies that will make daddy legal that will say

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_00]: no that infringes on the first amendment that infringes on the 14th amendment that infringes on

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: the constitution we are free to live the way we want to as long as you know we're not hurting

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_02]: other people and where what do you mentioned something about the family a minute ago and how

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_02]: the Suvi Union encouraged people to tell on their parents and that children belong to the state

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_02]: why is that important why is it destruction when you when you mentioned that Marx says to destroy

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_02]: everything why is it important to destroy the family as well you know Jenny Beth he really should do this

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_00]: for a living because you're very good at it you know it's also in the manifesto abolish the family

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_00]: those three words are in the manifesto abolish the family and why is that Jenny Beth because the

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_00]: family is the most basic institution of society it is pre-political it is pre-state when our

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_00]: we were nomads and hunter gatherers and all that we had families so so that pre-political

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_00]: institution has to be destroyed has to be denigrated and destroyed in order for them to have the

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_00]: destruction this societal and systemic destruction that they want and do you think that's happening here

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_00]: in America right now well the family is definitely on the threat the family I mean again to go back

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: to the sexual hallucinations if a mother or father say no actually we don't want our 14-year-old child

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: to be you know to have surgery we don't want sheer heat to be mutilated to be to have

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: perfectly reasonable healthy organs cut off mutilated that the child can now be taken away I think

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that is the case in the state of California so or if it's even shorter than that

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_00]: if a son wants to tell us the student tells the school that he wants to be called the she

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_00]: this the school is not allowed to tell the parent that in some states that that is an infringement

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_00]: of parental rights that is a that is that is an attack on the family the teacher it's going to

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_00]: forget that child's name in five years time you know my wife and I spent countless conversations

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_00]: deciding what our three children would be called we gave them names that were

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_00]: names that have been in our families or names that had to do with the places where they were born

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_00]: names that were significant and meaningful to us we loved them best and anyone else we know them

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_00]: best and anyone else not the teacher that's not the teacher's child that's not the principal's

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_00]: child and then that's not the school board child it's not the school district's child it is our children

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_02]: yes it is and it's very disturbing to see these trends in California and Minnesota and Washington

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_02]: seed and other places around the country where they're infringing on on these parental rights

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and if you are a parent living honestly if I were a parent in those seats I would get out

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and maybe it's hard to imagine that because you live there and you can't imagine leaving with is your

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_02]: home and your livelihood but man it isn't like that in other states in Georgia and Florida and

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Tennessee and there are many other states where you actually can live free without that threat

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and it's not just sexual stuff Jenny Beth you know and Tim Walses little people's Republic of Minnesota

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_00]: they he has just passed an ethnic studies standard which is is will orders to indoctrinate

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_00]: children and to using race as a revolutionary tool I have looked at the Minnesota ethnic standards

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_00]: it's a their pure Marxism Tim Walses signed that those that they built that included that

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_02]: like standard I think study standard rather sorry and in the seats like I just mentioned Georgia

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Tennessee Florida that where you're free and you don't have to worry they your children may be

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_02]: taken from you if you don't agree to mutilating them even in those seats we're running in a major

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_02]: problems in the school system and in other and other aspects of the life because because Marxism is

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_02]: being taught at school whether the teachers even understand that that's what they're teaching or not

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: when they get into critical social justice theory isn't critical social justice theory

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Marxist and it's embedded inside of textbooks they they don't have to say this is what

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_02]: critical race series they just present arguments that actually adhere to that theory and they present

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_00]: his facts and in many textbooks across the country yeah critical race theory is Marxist it was it was

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: you know conceived by Marxist they called themselves Marxist which would delgado who was at the opening

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: conference and in in Madison in 1989 of the of the of the of the of the began critical race theory

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: he wrote later it's said an interview rather years later because it was held in a combat

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_00]: and he said it was very ironic we were there a bunch of Marxists inside of room with with with glass

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: stain windows stained glass windows so critical race theory is completely Marxist just so happens at tonight

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go to my to my son's school hours school visit and I know that the social studies teacher

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_00]: is going to say or the history teacher is going to say we in this county do not to knock in practice

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: critical race theory but however we we will teach we will give the students the tools to understand

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_00]: our systemic racism and the fact that white supremacy he'll say something of that in that order

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_00]: which means they do because that does so they right that does this is the basic tenets of critical

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_00]: race theory it's that these ideas these crazy ideas that we have white supremacy and that we have

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_00]: systemic racism in this country we have as you know I'm sure you're well aware and I know that

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: we have ugly racists in this society just like we have in also societies we don't have I don't

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: think we have more racist than than other countries do but we have rapists do we have murderers we

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_00]: have thieves you know we have we we're man is fallen but didn't want to look at it that way

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_00]: anybody they they say well know the individual racist does not matter do not spend any time talking

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_00]: about the individual racist because so matters is the racism embedded in society this is

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: systemic racism and that is really what I have issue with I think racism is an individual sin

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_00]: we're not behaving we're not doing what Christ the Nessage left us with loved one another

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_00]: we're not loving somebody because it happens to be of another race that's a sin in many cases

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_00]: also a crime if you implement it but they don't care about that to them it is American society everything

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_00]: we do the Boy Scouts the car you drive taking a walk these are all racist actions that is

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_00]: crazy and not true then we have to fight against it we you're you're right we do have to fight against it

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and one of the dangers I think in in saying well it the cause is systemic racism or the cause is

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_02]: systemic problems whatever they may be it absolves the individual of their responsibility if they're

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_02]: doing something wrong individually and it lets them off the hook if they individually are racist you're

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_02]: blaming something much bigger than that and and I guess that's a point because Marxism wants to

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_02]: destroy all of the systems of government and not just the government but just all of our systems

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_00]: in general to replace it right the call it systemic racism for a reason geniebath system it's just

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_00]: a Greek word that means the way everything works so they went to destroy it's systemic if we have

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_00]: systemic racism and or go the logical conclusion is that we have to change the system and that's what

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_00]: they want to do as we started this conversation by saying they want systemic change so they say well

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_00]: you just alluded to this the existence of racial disparities is primary face she evidence of systemic

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: racism which it isn't they they can't just assert that they have to show some evidence and there's

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_00]: nothing in the social sciences that proves that and the studies that they have are not replicated

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_00]: their their their their their their their their written and sand what is in the social sciences for example

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_00]: is how the the the the solution of the family does lead to to to disparities does lead to

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_00]: true on sea school does lead to criminality does lead to jail does lead to poverty you grow up

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_00]: without a father in a home and I think you have a 92% chance of ending up in poverty and you go

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_00]: to you go to a prison and you will see that many of the men who are in that prison did not have a

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: social sciences and by evidence let's look at that this is going my god we have we've had rampant

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_00]: out of what luck birth in our society now some groups are we're sitting others but it is a killer in

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_00]: all groups it is a killer it's a it's a color blind problem so so no no the disparities which are

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_00]: real are not based on systemic racism they based on the the background variables such as family

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_02]: information access bad schools all these things so what do you um what do you think can be done here in

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_02]: America how do we we solve the problems but we before we do that I want to take one one step back

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_02]: we have a situation right now where we've got a candidate for president who is raised by a

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Marxist her father was a Marxist we have a vice presidential candidate who is a Marxist we have the

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_02]: head of the Department of Transportation who is raised by Marxist what what do you think how

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_02]: how concerning is it to you having studied Marxism and communism and socialism how concerning

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_02]: is it to you to see that children of Marxists are taking such big roles and responsibilities in

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_02]: in our government and they're they're leaning that way it's not like they were raised by a

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Marxist and they've realized that capitalism and natural rights are the better way there's still

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_02]: leaning that way what what do you what do you think when you see people who are Marxists or have

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: tendencies rising up in our government we used to call that red diaper babies

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_00]: and there's a reason for that red diaper babies tended to be Marxism themselves

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: that they did children of I mean obviously talking just an hour ago was you talking some

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_00]: body in Congress and she said well nobody's responsible for their parents and I said well you know

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_00]: actually I'm pretty pretty good products of my parents I'm exactly like my parents were

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_00]: in many ways I don't know a ways obviously but in the two case two of the three cases I don't

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: know that much about Tim Waltz but did you mention like Kamala Harris or vice president and

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Pete Buttigieg or secretary of transportation in his case his father was Joe Buttigieg who was

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: the foremost Gramsian scholar in this country and Antonio Gramsci it's always I spoke very briefly

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_00]: because I didn't want to bore you to tears about the the leap to cultural Marxism in the 1920s

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_00]: a lot of that most of that work was done by Antonio Gramsci the founder of Italy's Communist Party

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_00]: who died in the 1930s he was not really fully translated until 1970 and the best translated

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_00]: was Joe Buttigieg Pete Buttigieg is his father who was a founder of the international the

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_00]: fund there I'm president of the International Found Gramsci Society now Pete Buttigieg is

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_00]: to go around say my father was an immigrant and you get this ends because we think that

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Tim to think this way in America that's father was you know a factory worker with a

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_00]: with his lunch pales lunch bucket that his wife gave him when he left the house going over to

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_00]: to steal pipe to do smokes stacks what is the well-blessed factory in South Ben in the Anna

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Jenny Beth it was Notre Dame University with Joe Buttigieg was a tenured professor and in the case

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_00]: of Kamala Harris I'm gonna give away the punch line here because I'm gonna have a paper coming out

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_00]: either today or tomorrow that I co-written with Jonathan butcher well it's who with whom I've

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_00]: called author pieces for years and one of the things we find was that Kamala Harris's parents

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_00]: actually met in a social studies program at Berkeley in 1961 that was so left is that it was

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_00]: there that Bobby sealed Med Hue in Newton and who are these two guys Bobby sealed here in Newton

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_00]: they found the black Panthers the black Panthers the fifth founder of the black Panthers

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Med at this study group work Kamala Harris's parents mad they were that radical wow

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and I don't think that you can escape that kind of radicalism if that's what you grew up around it's

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_02]: what you're going to know what you're going to be familiar with and comfortable with and what you

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_02]: lean to as foundational knowledge when you're making decisions. In the case of Tim Walt I don't

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that much about him I know that he went to China 30 times paid for by institutions

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_00]: inside the PRC the people's Republic of China that money has to have come with the knowledge

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: bent it now the direct involvement of the Chinese Communist Party the CCP 30 times it's a lot of times

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I lived in Hong Kong eight years and I when I was a foreign correspondent I went to China a lot

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: not a single time was that paid five by the CCP and in fact they canceled my my visa at one point

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and I would have difficulty going back because I was interviewing with our government approval

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_00]: so very different cases between me and Walt. Very different and you have a friend now who is

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_02]: suffering and imprisoned. Yes so what what do you think the solutions or what can be done?

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I obviously we've got an election coming up and we can work work on that but what else can we do

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: as individuals? Well what you and are doing right now is very important and I thank you for

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: giving me this platform and talking about these issues. This is really important. I hope I have been

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_00]: clear enough and I'm really so that you're listening and people watching this show can come away

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_00]: with an understanding they can come to my Twitter account it's Wendy Salvo's GUNDISALVUS

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_00]: they can visit heritage.org they can read my books or they can but then we also have to convince

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_00]: people and convince them you know I don't smile enough as you can tell but we don't have to be

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_00]: you know we don't have to be grumpy about it you know we can talk to our fellow Americans and say

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: this is what is happening we're in a free country you know these are the ideas that want to teach you

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and universities like when you go to a museum that museum has been quote unquote decolonized

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and I'll show you how they have decolonized that museum what are the messages they send you in that

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_00]: museum when you're a library the books that you're going to see in the top shelves are going

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_00]: to be all about one issue or one or one side of the aisle when you go to the theater like

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_00]: was dido for the movies it's all so reveal for them the hidden genders so they can make their

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_00]: minds when they watch them consume these things they these cultural Marxist these next gen Marxists

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_00]: that Katie Gork and I write about have been very adept at taking over the cultural institutions

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_00]: they did the institutions in charge of making meaning of creating intellectual content

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_00]: communists used to say that they wanted to to the government should own the means of production

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_00]: now it is owning the means of production of meaning and that matters to them that's the

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_02]: material of the museum that I was referring to these are it's very important I hope people go

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and they buy your book and read your book and become very familiar with what it means when we

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_02]: were raising these red flags about about Marxism and socialism and communism right here in America

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_02]: it's something I'm sure that when you're your family left Cuba they never imagined having to fight

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_00]: communism in socialism in America America is my cause I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_02]: shrink from this battle well I am very very thankful that you are not and I'm thankful for the

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_02]: education that you're doing you've helped educate me over the years and I know that you're doing

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_02]: that with many other people around the country and I think it's very important that we understand

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_02]: the battles that we're we're up against so that we we can guard our liberty and protect our

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_02]: liberty my thank you thank you so much for joining me today I really appreciate it

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