Affordability: The Communist Motto Hiding in a Word Even Trump Uses | Dr. Yuri Yarim-Agaev

[00:00:00] Most of his friends went to prison. He expected to. He had already escaped one arrest. Instead, the Soviet Union did something stranger, exiled him, and told him never to come back. Welcome to The Jenny Beth Show. I'm Jenny Beth Martin, and this is our Surviving Communism series.

[00:00:31] Welcome to The Jenny Beth Show. I sat down with people from five countries who know what communism actually does. Today, we learn more about what happened to them in communist countries, to their family, their food, their churches, and their futures. This conversation is with Dr. Yuri Yarim-Agaev. He talked for so long that we're going to split this episode into two. He was born in the Soviet Union in 1949,

[00:01:00] making him the third generation in his family to live under communism. So he grew up in what he calls mature communism, the stage after the terror when fear has been absorbed and people no longer need reminders. They automatically censor themselves and they become used to the long lines in the authoritarian control. Here's Dr. Yuri Yarim-Agaev. Thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you.

[00:01:28] So, you've had quite an amazing life. You grew up, you were born into communism, weren't you? Yeah. And I want to get the history of what you've gone through, but before, and I want to go through that, but before we do that, we were just, before we started recording, you were talking about how you've been sounding the warning bells about communism basically your whole life and you're still doing that now.

[00:01:56] Absolutely, because it hasn't, it's not gone. It's still there, unfortunately. Yeah. It could have been done much more after Reagan did his job, but all his successors started with George Bush.

[00:02:14] They failed, actually. So, communism wasn't eradicated. It remains the ruling political system in many countries. And people don't even know that it's about 20 countries which are actually communist countries now.

[00:02:37] I mean, it's definitely China and North Korea, but also still Laos, Cambodia and all, and Vietnam, they are still communists. And Cuba and Nicaragua. And mind you, actually a couple more countries joined recently. Nobody paid attention. For example, Sri Lanka became communist country.

[00:03:01] So, communism was present in the ruling system in many countries. Communism still remains in its structures in many former Soviet Union countries. And for example, Putin, who was a KGB officer, that's the main communist structure in the Soviet Union.

[00:03:26] And he is now president of Russia for many years. And we see the consequences of that. But in some other republic, also all communist structures, they didn't disappear. And as we know, communist ideology is still very alive. And here, in the West, in the United States, in our schools, in our university, etc. Yeah.

[00:03:55] So, that's why my job is not done. As long as I leave, I started very early, but I can tell you, I started in the most difficult place to fight communism, which was its citadel, which was the Soviet Union. I became dissident there, human rights activist, member of Moscow-Helsinger Group.

[00:04:17] And to fight communism there was actually, you risk not only prison, you risk your life, you know. Right. So, I knew what it was. But luckily, I was exiled at some moment, and I continued my work there. I worked very closely with Reagan and his many people of his administration, who became my good friends.

[00:04:44] I was never part of the government, but I created my own organization, which was called Center for Democracy in the USSR, mainly to support our dissidents, but also enlighten American public about what it is. And I think that one of the most important jobs, maybe, which dissidents did is actually showed to the world what communism is.

[00:05:12] Because the Soviet Union was a very closed country, and it was a totalitarian country which controlled all information. And information which went to its own citizens, and information which went abroad. There were some foreign correspondents, but they had very little access to anywhere. They were totally controlled.

[00:05:37] So, we were the people who broke this monopoly on information. And I think that was very critical. And many people in America later told me that we opened their eyes, you know, of what was going there. So, that was part of our job at that time. And again, when I came here, I continued it.

[00:06:07] And because it was a very important thing to do, to explain. And I would say it's even more important now, because as we know, many people don't have any clue what communism. I mean, except that they're brainwashed now in their schools and universities. But, I mean, people who didn't experience Cold War in their life. Right. They know very little.

[00:06:32] And it's very easy to brainwash them, you know, because they don't have any knowledge, any experience. And that's what happens. And the people who did experience the Cold War, many of them have forgotten what you and others like you who were dissidents taught us about communism. So, it's important we reopen their eyes and open the eyes of the people who've been brainwashed.

[00:07:02] Well, that's true. And you know what happened? Reagan did a great job. I think dissidents did a great job. Actually, we were two parts of very important force which actually brought to the collapse of the Soviet communism and all Soviet communist empire. But after that, situation completely changed. And it started immediately with George Herbert Walker Bush. Yes.

[00:07:32] Who, instead of finishing Ronald Reagan's job, he stopped everything. And he actually felt more comfortable with some old communist guards in the Soviet Union rather with dissidents. And then Clinton came, you know, with complete relaxation.

[00:08:00] And then I... Everybody forgot. I mean, nobody believed any longer that China is still a communist country. They said, no, no, no. It's not real communist any longer. It took a lot... A lot of my efforts was to try to explain that it's still the same communist country and it's our main enemy and main threat to our existence.

[00:08:28] But people somehow deluded themselves. No, it's competitor, you know, it's almost friend and help, help China to become superpower. That's what America did, actually. And now there is some eye opening now, but very slow, very little and unfortunately. Yes, it's very unfortunate.

[00:08:57] And what we're seeing in our own country right now today tells us, as it is on the rise here in America, that we've got a job to do to open as many eyes as we can. Let's take a step back and talk about what was life like for you growing up in the Soviet Union.

[00:09:19] You mentioned it's a totalitarian state, and you also talked about how the dissidents were able to shed the light and open the eyes on it. What is it that... Talk about your life. Well, frankly, my life, by Soviet standards, was very good and comfortable.

[00:09:46] I grew up in a great family of scientists. My father and mother were professors of science. It was... They didn't accept communism, but they were no dissidents. And I was brought up in such... I wouldn't say I was brought up as anti-communist.

[00:10:12] I was brought up as kind of liberal in good sense, you know, and with also good education. So I... But I wasn't originally dissident in my young years, you know, because people used to live in this country, you know. It was a country of full control over people's life. And when...

[00:10:39] And the word totalitarian is very important and very deep word. Because what totalitarianism means, it means total control of everything. Of everything. And of everybody. And very deep and precise control. On... On the political system, on the economic system, but also on private life of people.

[00:11:09] Everything. You cannot name any area of life which is not controlled and determined by the government. Everything, including appearance, you know, what clothes you can wear, you know. What songs you can sing, you know. What books you can read. Everything.

[00:11:31] But, you know, because I was already the third generation of people which grew in this system. And so... So... And people after great terror, after great fear which was imposed on the people, which actually was a main mechanism of totalitarian control, is fear.

[00:11:58] And after millions of people were persecuted and killed, et cetera, everybody was fearful. And so it's a lot of... Mainly was self-control. Not that KGB controlled everybody. It wasn't... There was no need to do that. People controlled themselves. They had fear. And that's how this totalitarian system functions.

[00:12:27] But, as I say, I was a third generation. And people... Majority of people got used to that. You know, because people are people. They tried to accommodate. They tried to find comfort even in slavery. And it was slavery, actually. So it wasn't that people kind of thought every day that they are controlled, that they are manipulated.

[00:12:56] They became virtually used to that. And very few of us actually dared to challenge it. And it was very risky. It was a very dangerous challenge because totalitarian systems don't accept any dissent. Everybody should obey. Everybody should follow this totalitarian ideology.

[00:13:25] There cannot be any alternative opinions. There is no need for freedom of human rights in totalitarian systems because everybody is decided for you by the Communist Party and the government. So what for do you need any rights or any liberties? You don't need them. Government and party, Communist Party knows best.

[00:13:52] And what I am saying, people for such a long time, people accommodate and get used to them. And we started to challenge it. And in the beginning, many people didn't understand us. Why do we risk our freedom and even life, you know, to speak up, etc.?

[00:14:15] But then more and more people started to listen and respect to us. And our main struggle was human rights, which, mind you, is the most lethal weapon for any totalitarian system. And one of the things which, and to me, I'm devout of human rights. All my life, I fight for human rights.

[00:14:45] I'm a little bit upset that in this country, it's pretty much forgotten now by everyone. I mean, left to left, it's an FMF. It's clear. But the right conservatives gave in on human rights. And that's what upsets me, you know.

[00:15:05] You wouldn't hear much, even in the year of 250 years of essentially human rights. Because it was 250 years of the birth of America, but actually of Declaration of Independence. And the main thing which is declared is human and animal rights given us by our Creator. That's right.

[00:15:32] But you wouldn't hear, even in commemoration speeches of 200 universities, you wouldn't hear much this word. And I tell you why. Because the left stole it and perverted it, as they often do. So instead of natural human rights equal for own, which is a foundation of this country, which is what we fought on,

[00:16:00] they created such special rights. Black rights, women rights, LGBT rights, whatever, hundreds of different rights. Right. And by that, they killed the very concept. Because there couldn't be any special rights. Human rights are equal for all. That's right. There could be only special privileges, you know.

[00:16:28] There couldn't be group rights or identity rights. Such things doesn't. It's oxymoron. But because of that, many conservatives gave in. They say, oh, no, no, no. We don't want to hear about human rights because it's all this black rights, transgender rights. So instead of fighting, you know, for real human rights, which Jefferson wrote in Declaration of Independence,

[00:16:57] which actually became the foundation of this country, and which became the banner for all dissidents in totalitarian countries, as the most lethal weapon against totalitarism. Our conservative game, as they did in many other things, mind you. Left is very tricky, you know. They steal concepts, they steal words, they pervert them. And then conservatives give it away.

[00:17:27] Well, I think there are two things going on there because, first, just so you know, because we only met this evening, we went through and did a whole entire series on the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights for the 250th anniversary. Oh, I'm glad to hear that. We wanted to make sure that we were highlighting that. But I think that the left perverts it, so it makes some conservatives afraid to talk about them.

[00:17:57] And then they'd also do so in a way that seduces people to them. So people who should be conservatives and be able to see through some of what is happening on the left, somehow right now we're seeing that there are some conservatives who think a little bit of socialism is okay. I'm just like, no, it's not. It's never okay. It's a slippery slope that's bad. It's dangerous.

[00:18:26] So I think that they don't fight for it, one. And the other thing is that they're willing to sacrifice just a little. And once you've done that, you're on quickskins. Yeah, well, the whole history here and everywhere is ongoing offensive on the left. Yes.

[00:18:50] And ongoing attempt by conservatives to find some middle ground and some compromise. So conservatives, step by step, give away some things. So they gave away education. They gave away culture. And I remember my conversation with many people.

[00:19:15] They thought that they should care only about three things, about business, religion, and military. All the rest, they gave away without any fight, you know? They should have been concerned about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Yeah, and if you give away, you know, art, culture, education mainly, you already are in big, big trouble.

[00:19:45] And it was absolutely naive to think that if you give away those things, that the left wouldn't go later after business, after military, and after religion, which they did, as we know. And, I mean, it's kind of naivete. This is ideological war. And people don't understand it.

[00:20:11] We have ideological war external, which again is denied by many. But China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, they are in one block, waging ideological war against us. And to all of them, the enemy number one is the United States of America. Many people don't want to see it. Many people don't want to see it. They deny it.

[00:20:40] Because, I mean, it's unpleasant thing, you know, to admit that we are involved in the war. But there is also ideological war inside. And this is also. And mind you, those things are very much linked and connected.

[00:20:57] And one of the best ways to deal with totalitarianism inside our country is to defeat it as much as we can outside.

[00:21:10] And again, virtually nobody remembers when Reagan won the Cold War and the Soviet communism collapsed, how all the left in the United States in Western Europe virtually disappeared for a moment. They became shy.

[00:21:58] The longer external totalitarianism becomes, the more strong and comfortable are internal totalitarian forces. And you could see that I use now the word totalitarian even more than communist. Although communism is a main totalitarian force. But even here inside, we see that other totalitarian forces, they unite together.

[00:22:26] You know, Islamist forces and communist forces. They unite at one totalitarian bloc. They unite outside and they unite inside. And in ideological war, there is one main rule. There is no defensive strategy. It's only offensive. And Reagan won because he went for so-called peaceful offensive. That was strategy of Ronald Reagan.

[00:22:55] So if you try simply contain, defend, try to find compromises all the time, you lose. You lose, lose, lose. Unless and until you go into offensive, you start to challenge them, you will be always defeated. Step by step, you will lose your ground. And that's what unfortunately happens.

[00:23:25] We've said there are people who don't remember the Cold War. They don't understand what communism is. For someone who has never lived under communism or a totalitarian regime, explain what it's like for them so they understand. You mentioned that you were rising up and that you were challenging it and it was a great risk to you.

[00:23:50] So, why were you, what made you decide I need to step up and say something? And also help people visualize what communism was like? Well, several things. First of all, I would say my sense of responsibility, of moral responsibility.

[00:24:12] Because as I say, I was, I belong to, I would say, pretty high level of the Soviet society. My parents were high level scientists. I graduated the best university, became physicist, work at the Academy of Science, you know. So I feel, felt more privileged and more informed and educated. And that gave me a sense of moral responsibility.

[00:24:43] If I don't speak, if I don't explain what's going on, who will? And also, freedom to me was very important. I mean, people are different, you know. To some, to many people, freedom is not important at all. You know, that's what makes actually communism and socialism and other things so successful.

[00:25:07] You know, they are ready easily to give away freedom for more security, for more comfort, etc. Not me, not my fellow dissidents. To us, freedom was everything, you know. And so that and others.

[00:25:23] So my moral responsibility, freedom, well, that's maybe major factors which defined my attitude. And the more I struggled, the more I fought communism, the more I understood it and learned about it.

[00:25:50] Because it's very difficult to learn many things about such societies because they are closed societies. Yeah, how did you know about freedom? How do I know freedom? I think, well, it's my, first of all, it's in nature, in human nature of the person, you know. Some people are born free. Some people are born slaves, I would say.

[00:26:15] That's, but it's also, as I say, I had very good education. And both scientific education, why do you, scientific education also helps you? Because it, you think, you have logic, you can observe things, you can make conclusions. But the third thing which I should mention definitely, it's courage. Without courage, you cannot do any of that.

[00:26:44] Actually, without courage, you cannot even think through. Because the first thing is intellectual courage, which means that if you see something, if you see something which you don't like, if you see something which are dangerous, most people stop, even people with good intellect and good logic,

[00:27:13] they stop thinking about it at some stage because it's dangerous, because it brings them to the conclusions which they have to do something about. So it's important to have good intellect, it's important to get good education, but you also need courage. Without courage, you cannot think through and definitely wouldn't act, you know.

[00:27:39] So that also was selection of people who were dissidents. I mean, they were all courageous people. You cannot deal without that. And as I say, because we challenged that system directly, we interacted with it. And through that interactions, we learned and revealed so many things which were close to everybody

[00:28:07] and which could be done only by, through such interactions to which Soviet authorities were not ready. And actually, they were caught to some extent. They persecuted dissidents. But what they got from that persecution? People got to prisons and labor camps. And they revealed all information about Soviet prisons and labor camps, which before that was absolute secret. And the world didn't know so.

[00:28:36] They started to incarcerate dissidents into psychiatric prisons. And so the people who were incarcerated, who were definitely absolutely normal people, they released all this information on psychiatric abuse. And eventually, Soviet Psychiatric Association was excluded from the psychiatric association because of the violation of dissidents.

[00:29:04] But we also encountered many, many other things which couldn't be learned unless you dare interact with that system. And the system wasn't ready to do that. I mean, as I say, the system was based on fear. Yeah.

[00:29:25] So the premise of everybody, including KGB, was we don't need to do much. People are controlled, controlled themselves by fear. And explain how they instilled that fear. Remind people, especially those who don't, have never learned this,

[00:29:51] How were they so successful in making people afraid to begin with? They killed tens of million people. That is absolutely necessary stage in evolution of any totalitarian country. You don't, you cannot give me any exception of that.

[00:30:17] Because first, totalitarian forces weaken the existing order. Then they seize power. Then they actually remove all their partners which came to them power. And mind you, that's very relevant to what's going on in the West. Because totalitarian forces are usually very small.

[00:30:45] So what they need at the first stage of their struggle, they need to expand their base. And they look for that about many marginal forces who have their own grievances, you know. And that's what Bolsheviks did. You know, among gays, among different nationalities, etc.

[00:31:14] And because they needed more people. And that's what totalitarian forces in America do, you know. Because many of those forces which are most waxing to us and more irritating, they themselves are not totalitarian forces. But they're used by totalitarian forces to, because what is their goal at this stage? To weaken bourgeois moral, to weaken bourgeois institution,

[00:31:44] to weaken bourgeois education, etc. And those forces are helpful. But when they come to power, they eliminate all those people. So those people should be wise enough to realize that. And then comes the final stage. They need to achieve total obedience by all people in the country.

[00:32:13] And the only way to do it is mass terror. So you have great terror in the Soviet Union. You have leap forward in China, which killed tens of millions of people. You have killing fields in Cambodia, which killed a third of the population. But also in any other communist country, totalitarian country, in Vietnam, in Cuba, in Iran.

[00:32:43] Korea. North Korea, for sure. Yes. Absolutely. So that stage, because it's so massive terror and quite random terror, that's what instills fear in everybody. So whoever survives after that, survives with that fear,

[00:33:09] which actually he continues to teach to his children. And even grandchildren. So everybody who was born after that was told to the parents, never speak about that. Be quiet, you know. That comes from the birth already in the third generation, you know. So this fear comes from generation to generation.

[00:33:38] And the main thing which we did, we broke this pact of fear. And that was our main influence inside communist countries. Because to most people, it was absolute shock, you know. How can it be? How can people speak up? Yes, most of us were in prison, detained, but we survived, and we continued, you know. And this was unbelievable.

[00:34:08] And this shows to people that that system is not so omnipotent, which they believed it was. That actually, when even small group of people isn't afraid any longer, speaks up, et cetera, they actually don't know what to do with us. I mean, definitely repression, imprisonment, et cetera, but they could never manage it because they were caught at surprise

[00:34:37] and they were not ready to sell. People were not supposed to behave this way. And this fact was the first which caused great respect to us among many people in the country that we were not afraid, that we were brought to fear. The second thing, which was critical, that we were saying truth.

[00:35:07] And again, this country was based on lie, lie, lie, propaganda, disinformation, lie. People got used to them. And I mean, they knew that, but they they didn't see an alternative. And when some people dared to speak truth, it earned great respect to us by many people.

[00:35:37] So the courage breaking fear, breaking this monopoly of lie and speaking truth, and our moral standing, you know, because again, in a totalitarian system, any communist, Islamist, whatever, Nazi, they need to break moral of all society.

[00:36:06] Not only make that fear, but moral is very strong weapon about any power, you know, and it's unacceptable. People should be broken, you know, not only frightened, but also broken, broken morally. They had all to accept lie. They had all to lie themselves when they required.

[00:36:37] So to break morality of everyone, well, and as you know, that in communist countries, atheist country, which prohibit any real religion, so, but it's even broader than belief, which is critical for many people to support their moral, but it's moral in general. So this was the third factor which earned our respect. People saw

[00:37:06] that we were people of morals and principles, you know, and it's so dangerous to be a person with principles in communist countries, and, but we did, and that was very important. You just talked about that when you're saying the morals and the principles,

[00:37:36] it also destroyed faith and hope, because faith and hope are I think roots of having, or morals are fruits of having faith. And I talked to someone much earlier or in a different episode in this series who talked about living through the cultural revolution in China and

[00:38:06] being in forced labor as a child, but they also, they were breaking morality, like the morality of the family as well. So, there's no, I can't even, I've said this so much in this, I just can't imagine, because I've never lived in something that you have had to endure. And I think so many Americans, we can't, we can't even pick, I can picture it, yes, but I can't imagine myself being in that, because I

[00:38:36] never have and I never want to be. It just, it's a horrible situation. Yeah, but again, everyday life in the Soviet Union to any external observer wouldn't look so terrible. Actually, it looks like a very similar and quite comfortable life, you know, because you cannot, you don't have x-ray to realize what is inside many

[00:39:06] people, you know, and how broken they are, you know. and so, and also people themselves, as I say, they got used to that. They don't want to feel that they don't have any morals, that they live in fear, that they lie all the time. So, so there is,

[00:39:35] many people are conformists, many people actually adjust and adopt many things, you know. It's not that all Americans are such and all Russians are different. No, definitely degree of that, and it's critical, you know, there is threshold which changes everything, you know, but as a human being, we're not so different, you know. So, many things could be understood

[00:40:05] by even some examples in this country, you know, when we talk. And look, look on the level of conformism, which we witnessed in the last years, you know. Would it be pandemics? Would it be climate change? Would it be anything, you know? It's also a form of conformism. It's not only ideology, but it's also adaptation by many people who don't want to be

[00:40:35] different from their surrounding, you know, who want to be the same as everybody else. So, when it reaches some level, you know, so many people become very, and they don't want to think. Or they don't have the courage to, it isn't so much you don't have the courage to be different, but they don't have the courage to withstand the attacks. Well, they don't have even courage to think it through. Right.

[00:41:05] Those people are completely close. There's so many people with whom I have to And I'm talking about very high-level intellectuals, people, some of the professors at leading universities, et cetera, who would have enough intellect to hear my arguments, but they don't have courage to do that because they

[00:41:34] don't want to do that. If, what happens if I explain them and persuade them that they were wrong and I am right, what would they do? They don't want to discover such unpleasant things because they live in their surroundings with, it's already groupthink when everybody, you know, that's where nucleus of totalitarian mentality are already sitting, you know.

[00:42:04] And it's not necessarily should be communism, you know, it should be some, any ideology or pseudoscience very often, you know, which is accepted by some group of people and then it grows like mushrooms and people find themselves already in such surrounding, you know, which they don't want to argue. And that's one of the ways how communism

[00:42:32] also embraces many people, you know, not because, look, most of them don't know much about communism, not only in a negative sense, but even in the ideological sense. I mean, how many of them read Karl Marx? I mean, very few, you know. No, no, I don't speak about Das Kapital, but even Communist Manifesto, virtually no one of them read, you know.

[00:43:01] So they know some slogans and that's it, and they don't want even to think and analyze it, you know, because they are part of the crowd, you know, which says, well, this is great, you know, we all like it, you know, and that's it. So, and it comes from the school also, as we know, and, yes, that's how it works,

[00:43:29] and we need to break it, and, unfortunately, I can tell you, the current administration and our leaders do very poor job in this direction, very poor job, because they don't understand that this is really ideological war, that they need to win the

[00:43:58] battle of ideas. You cannot win ideological war, but by pure legal or administrative means, you will lose. You will not, I mean, you can make some executive orders, and some of them are correct, I don't mind them, but only by executive orders, you cannot change mind of all those millions of young people, and unless you change their mind, you are in trouble,

[00:44:30] and under Trump's watch, DSA grew up substantially, even in his first term, but mainly in his second term. Well, they've taken, they have taken the hatred of Trump that many people on the left have, and they've weaponized it to try to make them be sucked into the

[00:44:59] DSA, to the Democratic Socialists of America. They've been able to manipulate people's hatred of him, and turn, see, this is how we're going to fix things. Yuri, I've read their website, I've read a lot about the things that are on their website, and it is, it's seductive. It says things like, imagine a day without capitalism, which I think comes from something that happened in the Soviet Union previously

[00:45:29] anyway, you're taking a day off from work, but really you don't feel like you need the day off from work anymore because you only work as much as you need to now, and you're properly trained, as if they're not properly trained right now for the jobs that they have, and you don't have to worry about bills because you won't have any, because a house will be provided for you, and health care will be provided for you, and all the utilities are basic human rights, which goes

[00:45:59] to the point you were saying earlier, that they're twisting and manipulating what a right is, and I sat there and I read this, that part of, yes, they talk about abolishing the Senate and abolishing all of these other things, but I read this and I'm like, you would be crazy not to want this because it sounds so wonderful, but it's not, in reality it's not. Because, yes, and I think one of the problems of people who try

[00:46:29] to debunk communism is that they are talking only about the horrors of Soviet communism, Chinese communism, et cetera. First of all, for most people, it's so far away, you know, it's like, to talk how bad was Stalin on Mao, it's like to talk how bad was Tengiz Khan, you know, to them it's almost, it's some ancient history in some far away countries, right?

[00:46:58] What does it have to do with it? And they'll see things like, well, it just hasn't been done right. Yeah, exactly. That's the point of those neo-Marxists. So if you want to fight communism, you need to start exactly with what you were just talking about, with its appeal, with what it presents as very attractive and appealing things, and to analyze and discern it and

[00:47:27] explain it, first of all, why this appeal itself is very flawed, but then explain how any attempt of implementation of that inevitably brings to full control, to totalitarian society, to the same system as was in the Soviet Union. You need to go through all these stages to become effective.

[00:47:57] And for example, and again, conservatives are very weak and accept many of those things. For example, take such word as affordability. Yes. It was, came from the left, not accidentally, because if you discern the meaning of this term, what does it mean? Actually, it very much

[00:48:25] relates to communist motor, to everybody according to his needs. The motor of capitalism is to everybody according to his means. So if you have means, if you earned money to afford this, you afford this. If you didn't earn enough money, you don't afford it. Affordability is a very

[00:48:55] misleading term, because as I say, it actually means if you discern and spell it, to everyone according to his needs, that's communist motor. But everybody, including Trump, picked it up and started to use it. And there's so many such tricks, you know. And that goes back to what you were just saying, you have to be on the offense, you can't be on the defense, ideologically,

[00:49:25] in the ideological war. So if we start picking up and trying to use their language, it's being defensive rather than being on the even, very often it was even without understanding what are you doing, you know, because as I say, not many conservatives will discern this term affordability as I did now, right? They wouldn't associate with communist motor to everybody according to his needs. But that's exactly the

[00:50:03] terms of political correctness were accepted and adopted by all conservatives. Probably almost all. Almost all. Yeah. I still fight with African-American, you know, whenever I say it, I'm corrected, even when I often speak to some conservative broadcasters, they say, no, no, don't say blacks. But I say, you usually say black, no, no, no, African-Americans. I mean,

[00:50:33] the only people who resist this word often are black conservatives who hate this word. But it's only one example. I can give you dozens of such examples. You know how easily and that is a very important part of ideological war. We know who controls language controls everything, right? Right. So they work on this language, they feed us up

[00:51:03] and we swallow it, you know, and that's where the problem is. Yuri, thank you for your courage. Thank you. That was the first half of my conversation with Dr. Yuri Yurimagayev. Now, if you enjoyed this, please make sure you're sharing it with your friends and family so that they understand the unintended real-life consequences of socialism and Marxism.

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